Ha Ha ......I should have stated that clearer I guess as we got off on pickup truck seats. Both of what your showing from the books are pickup seats, Not Suburban seats .In post one Im showing my Panel/Suburban style seat in my 66 Panel. We have it traced to 1962 1963 1964 and from bobdylan to 1965. Heres the 1962 Civil defense seat from the 11,000 mile 62 from years ago , same as my seat.