oil pans and pumps....

[adamfgarner]

...I am once again seeking the sage advice of the GMC truck elders....in the past before I bought my truck, some nit-wit pushed in my oil pan...my questions are:
1) must I raise the motor off its mounts to remove the oil pan as my brother in-law tells me must be done for Chevys???
2) does anyone know a source for oil pans and pumps for the old sixer in case I can't un-mash mine.???..I have no reason to believe the pump is bad but just in case...I am quite sure I am getting restricted oil flow...

thanks in advance for your input...I am rabid for the consecutive projects on my jimmy...when I notice something needs to be fixed I get fixed on it...just got my front springs in today...oil pan is on my mind now since I'll be under there again soon anyway.

AFG

[FetchMeAPepsi]

Being 4wd mine drops out easy, but I have heard others say they had to raise the motor on 2wd models due to the crossmember being in the way.

The good news is the oil pan is very easy to mash dents out of. You should be able to get it back in shape unless it's sharp dents that stretched the metal too much. Just go slow and good luck!

[adamfgarner]

thanks Pepsi...would you drink a Coke if I brought it to you?

[FetchMeAPepsi]

Originally Posted by adamfgarner

thanks Pepsi...would you drink a Coke if I brought it to you?

I only drink the diet stuff so the wife sticks around for reasons other than my gravity.

So yeah, there's a big difference in diet coke and diet pepsi I haven't had diet coke in like....20 years? If a place doesn't carry pepsi I get diet dr pepper.

do you have a build thread? I know youve been working on your truck a while now. You might just snap some pics and let us see whats goin on. I know for me stuck inside in the cold its good to see someone else that can get out and do stuff

[adamfgarner]

I don't have the space to do a frame off...and I also use the truck regularly and no longer have another...so I have to do my build one repair/upgrade at a time...so far I've added wheels, carburetor, HEI, re-cored the original radiator, spruced up the interior, replaced window seals, brake over-haul, fixed and flushed my heater core/vent system, fixed lots of little deficiencies, changed all the fluids, engine bay painting etc.

On the list are replacing the springs (front now - rear later), dual exhaust, windshield, gas tanks, tires, bed and body work...the pics I have posted show it as it is now after say 5 months of elbow grease....I will add some more after completing each future project....

[FetchMeAPepsi]

Originally Posted by adamfgarner

the pics I have posted show it as it is now after say 5 months of elbow grease....I will add some more after completing each future project....

Where are your pics?

[Foley]

I had the same problem with the oil pan. It musta landed on top of a fire hydrandt at one time or another. The intake screen and pipe of the oil pump sit pretty close to the bottom of the pan and I figured it was a good idea to pull that pan and fix things, plus I wanted to look in the bottom of that pan and see what the story was. If you are talking about the 2WD, 305 V-6, I had to do the following in order to get that pan to slide out of there.

Remove the oil filter cannister, exhaust "Y" pipe, bottom flywheel cover, and then loosen the motor mounts and transmission mounts. Jack up the motor about two inches and the pan should have enough clearance to slide down and out the back. I was able to find a decent oil pan by advertising here on this site plus checking Craigs List. It was also a good time to pull the oil pump, clean and inspect it. It was pretty good except for the circular wear grooves on the bottom plate. I resurfaced that plate to get rid of those wear grooves.

[adamfgarner]

...Thanks Foley...I am down with the flu now, but will get to this ASAP...pics are under "albums" - 63 Jimmy

[Rockdriller]

Adam,
When I got my 351 it had a crushed pan also.
After removing the pan and reshaping it, I suspected I might have a couple weak spots where I worked out a couple crinkles.
I got out the brazing rod and flowed a couple rods worth of brass across the suspect areas. That took care of my "cracked pan" paranoia and also added some rigidity to the sump area.