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Old December 14th, 2014, 07:19 PM
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Hello, I would like to know the applications of all the variants of the GM 6-Lug Wheels. They are Kelsey Hayes stamped steel disc type. We need good pictures of known original wheels to each of the trucks that used these type wheels, GMC and Chevrolet. Cameo Trucks may have slightly different wheels than standard trucks. Wheel size, year by year may vary. I have what I believe to be factory correct wheels on my 1960 GMC 1002 Custom WideSide pickup. I will post a picture of them also. The literature on the 1960 GMC that I have concerning wheels is also here. Please post similar info from other year models you have. We can get a pool of info that will be a source of good info. on these different wheels. Any insights greatly appreciated, Greg Mead
Following my last post, I must say this black and white image you posted does indeed look like the potters type wheel mounted on those new 60 GMC's on that car carrier - so hard to tell with Black and white images too. Could be the squisher style too depending on how long you stare at it
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Old December 14th, 2014, 08:31 PM
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All the posts have a white # number at the top right of each post. I am speaking of the one that is marked #5.
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Old December 14th, 2014, 08:54 PM
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I am glad to hear that there is a date code for these old wheels. I will certainly start inspecting and annotating these wheels going forward. The 1958 GMC wheel pic has a non-optional ring added. The wheel itself is ,to my eye, certainly a Squisher type. I must ask, the owner put rings on a Squisher type wheel. Must that wheel have the four Nubbins to hold his rings on? I ask because, I do not know if those are even close to the shape of the Chevy rings for that year. They could be the later Spring metal rimmed type rings, that will fit on a wheel without the four nubbins. Has anyone ever put a known Chevy ring on a non-nubbins type wheel just to see if the nubbins are really needed? The nubbins are positive on the outer side of wheel, and leave a negative space on the inner side. That tells me that the nubbins were pressed under very high pressure. Other wheels from the same era, assuming the same KH Manufacturer, lack the nubbins. This leads me to believe that they were added for the purpose of holding a ring or a full wheel cover. These are 15 inch wheels. I seem to remember cars from back then having 6 lug,15 inch wheel too. If so, it seems likely that they added the nubbins so one wheel make would cover a lot more bases. Full covers, no sweat. Dog dish trucks and plain cars, who would care if the nubbins were there or not? Just a thought. As for the correct 1960 wheels, I have been wearing blinder in my hunt for 1960 specific information. Does anyone have any ads or other literature/pictures that show the Squisher wheels, in art or pictures? I have to start looking for that stuff myself. I only have the one truck, a 1960. So by default that is the primary angle of all my research to date. I will have to broaden my scope a little. I have combed the net for years and have only recently found the one picture of a factory fresh load of GMC trucks. It has the Potter Wheel that my truck features. I can see no nubbins on it. It is no smoking gun. There is a chance that these wheels were there ahead of the ordered wheels. They may have used what they had on hand to get these early production models out for an early phot shoot. There are at least two images from this set of truckload pictures. I assume there are others out there, but I have not seen them to date. I know that at least the one truck had the Potters when it went outside on day one. I am reasonably confident that at least some others did as well. I just wish I could see some art or pics with the Squishers. I would feel even better that they were made for these trucks to be the quote factory wheels, unquote. Perhaps I will try to contact Kelsey-Hayes, if they are still around. Thanks, Greg Mead
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Old December 14th, 2014, 09:16 PM
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I have seen trim rings or full caps of the era (I think) that have no spring clips. Which does seem to indicate something on the wheel provided capture. I just wonder why GMC would have a wheel with nubs and never use them. Does it point to the wheels that don't have them as genuine GMC? or are the nubs from the era of spring clip trim/caps? I see what you all are saying. Some JackA is going to say "yawn" here like they did to one of my posts. Took the time to type that? Awesome stupid.
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Old December 14th, 2014, 09:33 PM
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I am going cross reference huntin on these wheels. Probably a wild goose chase, but I love a good hunt. I will check back when I find something that might help the discussion along. Thanks guys for all the help, I am really learning a lot. Greg Mead
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So Cameos and 1958-59 deluxe trucks could be equipped with optional trim rings and there were 5 per wheel - so with only 4 nubbins cast, I do not know for sure if they were used for clip attachment - see pic of the spring clips Cameo rings used. I have not got to the point where I needed to know how to mount the trim rings to say if the nubbins are required for this type clip style attachment hardware or not....will investigate and find out
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Those don't look like they need no stinking nubbins..... or badges.
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I went to high school with Potter Nubbins......
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The 1.3 original mile 1958 "Lambrecht Cameo" from the Lambrecht Dealer in Pierce, NE is the only Rosetta Stone Cameo I know of. If you remember that auction that was all over the news. This brand new Cameo, never driven ,was sold for $140,000. At least we have a 1958 Chevy Cameo wheel and Hub cap trim we can say is real. Whatever that's worth. We already know that 55-56 Cameo used Belair full caps.
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Default Re: Correct GMC vs. Chevy Truck Wheels, 1960-66

Here is a 1960 or 1961 GMC with the Potter Wheels. It is supposed to be correct. I know they must have used the Squisher wheels, but I am yet to see them in a period picture. These Squisher wheels may have been made available at one or two plants. But there absence from any factory or early photographs leads one to believe they were not the wheel type that was marketed to the potential purchasers in 1960-61. I have only seen Potters Wheels in the early literature and period pictures. This does not prove they were the only wheel ,but it does lead me to believe they were the main style for these trucks. If anyone has early pictures of the Squisher wheels, please share them. Thanks, Greg Mead
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