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FetchMeAPepsi
September 23rd, 2013, 07:14 PM
BarryGMC pointed out that you can swap out our clutch for one from the bigger trucks in another thread. This is great news to us that though they werent made anymore! So heres where you can get it. Theyre sold out in alot of places but you can find them on ebay for 205.00

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=04-528+clutch+kit&_sop=15

Or get them from Amazon for 200
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CNNV6K/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Or save some bucks and get them from here like I did. they had 5 in stock when I called:

https://www.autopartsandstuff.com/rhinopac-ams-04-528-clutchkit.aspx

Funky61
September 24th, 2013, 02:15 AM
Great news, Thanks for the link's!

FetchMeAPepsi
September 12th, 2015, 12:27 AM
Bump to the top for everyone else!

The advance autopart one is here now

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/perfection-clutch-new-clutch-set-mu1862-1/5332559-p


Specs:

Alignment Tool Included: Yes
Clutch Disc Diameter: 12 in
Clutch Disc Type: Dampened
Counterweight Assist: No
Disc Diameter: 12 in
Disc Material: Organic
Flywheel Included: No
Hardware Included: No
Input Shaft Diameter: 1.125 in
Input Spline Quantity: 10
Pilot Bushing Included: Yes
Pressure Plate Type: 3 Lever Borg & Beck
Release Bearing Included: Yes


Trucks some websites say the Perfection Clutch model fits (for cross compatibility)

DODGE B100 VAN 1974 V8-7.2L
DODGE B200 78-75 V8-7.2L
DODGE B200 VAN 1974 V8-7.2L
DODGE B300 78-75 V8-7.2L
DODGE B300 VAN 1974 V8-7.2L
DODGE D100 78-76 V8-6.6L
DODGE D100 78-75 V8-7.2L
DODGE D100 PICKUP 71-69 V8-6.3L
DODGE D100 PICKUP 74-72 V8-6.6L
DODGE D100 PICKUP 74-73 V8-7.2L
DODGE D150 78-77 V8-6.6L
DODGE D150 1978 V8-7.2L
DODGE D200 78-75 V8-6.6L
DODGE D200 78-75 V8-7.2L
DODGE D200 PICKUP 71-69 V8-6.3L
DODGE D200 PICKUP 74-72 V8-6.6L
DODGE D200 PICKUP 74-73 V8-7.2L
DODGE D300 78-76 V8-6.6L
DODGE D300 78-75 V8-7.2L
DODGE D300 PICKUP 71-69 V8-6.3L
DODGE D300 PICKUP 74-72 V8-6.6L
DODGE D300 PICKUP 74-72 V8-7.2L
DODGE D400 1978 V8-7.2L
DODGE D450 1978 V8-7.2L
DODGE W100 77-75 V8-6.6L
DODGE W100 77-75 V8-7.2L
DODGE W100 PICKUP 71-69 V8-6.3L
DODGE W100 PICKUP 74-72 V8-6.6L
DODGE W100 PICKUP 74-73 V8-7.2L
DODGE W150 78-77 V8-6.6L
DODGE W150 1978 V8-7.2L
DODGE W200 78-76 V8-6.6L
DODGE W200 78-75 V8-7.2L
DODGE W200 PICKUP 71-69 V8-6.3L
DODGE W200 PICKUP 74-72 V8-6.6L
DODGE W200 PICKUP 74-73 V8-7.2L
DODGE W300 78-76 V8-6.6L
DODGE W300 78-75 V8-7.2L
DODGE W300 PICKUP 71-69 V8-6.3L
DODGE W300 PICKUP 74-72 V8-6.6L
DODGE W300 PICKUP 74-72 V8-7.2L

1986 Chevrolet C30 Silverado Extended Cab Pickup 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 Chevrolet G20 Chevy Van Extended Cargo Van 3-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 Chevrolet G30 Hi-Cube Cutaway Van 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 Chevrolet K10 Custom Standard Cab Pickup 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 Chevrolet K10 Scottsdale Standard Cab Pickup 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 Chevrolet K20 Custom Standard Cab Pickup 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 Chevrolet K30 Custom Cab & Chassis 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 Chevrolet K30 Silverado Cab & Chassis 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 GMC C2500 Base Cab & Chassis 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 GMC C2500 Base Crew Cab Pickup 4-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 GMC C2500 High Sierra Cab & Chassis 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 GMC C2500 Sierra Classic Cab & Chassis 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 GMC C3500 High Sierra Cab & Chassis 4-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 GMC G2500 Rally Extended Passenger Van 3-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1986 GMC K3500 High Sierra Standard Cab Pickup 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1985 Chevrolet C10 Suburban Custom Sport Utility 4-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1985 Chevrolet C20 Suburban Custom Sport Utility 4-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1985 Chevrolet C30 Custom Crew Cab Pickup 4-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1985 Chevrolet K30 Custom Cab & Chassis 2-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated
Mfrlabel:Clutch Kit<... 1985 Chevrolet K30 Custom Crew Cab Pickup 4-Door 6.2L 379Cu. In. V8 DIESEL OHV Naturally Aspirated

aphaynes
October 19th, 2015, 10:20 PM
Fetch - have you used one of these kits? Curious if anyone has had an issue replacing the 11 inch clutch with the 12 inch kit.

RockAuto has them also for $144 --- AMS AUTOMOTIVE 04528 12.000" X 1.125" X 10T

EDIT: Just checked your Advance Auto link. Here in north Alabama, they have it for $118!

FetchMeAPepsi
October 19th, 2015, 10:37 PM
Fetch - have you used one of these kits? Curious if anyone has had an issue replacing the 11 inch clutch with the 12 inch kit.

RockAuto has them also for $144 --- AMS AUTOMOTIVE 04528 12.000" X 1.125" X 10T

EDIT: Just checked your Advance Auto link. Here in north Alabama, they have it for $118!

I sure did! All my mishaps are in my build thread. There is ZERO issues using the 12" kit. Runs like a champ. And that is an awesome price! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

LEWISMATKIN
October 21st, 2015, 10:37 PM
fellas, you have to be careful with these "will-fit" cluches! Our GMC engines take a clutch disc that is completely flat on the flywheel side of the disc--no protrusion of the damper hub into the flywheel at all. If these "will-fit" kits are made with a flat disc on the flywheel side--GREAT!!!! If not, they are using the "chevrolet will work" mentality I have come across over the last 25 some odd years. No part of a chevy will fit on GMC V6 specific parts, unfornuately.

Cordially,
Lewis Ellis Matkin, Jr.
Ridge Manor, Florida
1965 1002 305E V6

Nate
October 22nd, 2015, 04:39 AM
Lewis I experieced the exact situation you are speaking about, luckily I caught it before putting the clutch together, my parts guy send my clutch and pressure plate to a shop and they rebuilt my old cores and they did a excellent
job for a little under $150.

BobBray
December 16th, 2015, 02:02 AM
Quick question: I saw one of these clutch kits the other day, and it looks like it 'might' work. While the disk hub is offset to the rear, away from the flywheel, the hub and springs slightly protrude on the flywheel side. Certainly a lot less than the universal 'Chevy' clutches I have seen in which the hub is centered in the disk. I know going from an 11" to a 12" should not pose any issues.

The clutch I was looking at was a AMS Rhinopac 04-528. Their catalog does show this number as fitting many GMC V-6's.

Has anyone around here actually used one of these new clutches?

FetchMeAPepsi
December 16th, 2015, 02:20 AM
Quick question: I saw one of these clutch kits the other day, and it looks like it 'might' work. While the disk hub is offset to the rear, away from the flywheel, the hub and springs slightly protrude on the flywheel side. Certainly a lot less than the universal 'Chevy' clutches I have seen in which the hub is centered in the disk. I know going from an 11" to a 12" should not pose any issues.

The clutch I was looking at was a AMS Rhinopac 04-528. Their catalog does show this number as fitting many GMC V-6's.

Has anyone around here actually used one of these new clutches?


Yep, the Rhinopac should work too. Open the package before you buy it if you can to make sure the alignment tool is still in there. They fall out pretty easy.

Also on the Rhinopac they have a throwout bearing that has a zerk (sp) fitting on it that you shoot full of grease every once in a while to maintain it.

:thumbsup:

BobBray
December 16th, 2015, 08:48 AM
Yep, the Rhinopac should work too. Open the package before you buy it if you can to make sure the alignment tool is still in there. They fall out pretty easy.

Also on the Rhinopac they have a throwout bearing that has a zerk (sp) fitting on it that you shoot full of grease every once in a while to maintain it.

:thumbsup:

Thanks for the reply! I noticed the greaseable throwout bearing, I remember old Internationals had something similar. Great idea.

kchampagne
May 5th, 2016, 04:21 AM
I got one of these from Advance Auto: Precision Clutch MU1862-1. It does not fit. Not even close. The hub and spring plate stick out way to far and does not lay flat on the flywheel. Also, the pilot bearing is way too small. Going to take it back and compare to another. Maybe I got a lemon.

Funky61
May 5th, 2016, 05:52 AM
KC would you post a photo of it before you return it; both sides.

kchampagne
May 5th, 2016, 06:31 AM
Thanks! The 1st pic shows the new and old disc with the "flywheel" side up (both are stamped with flywheel side) The 2nd pic shows both with the "pressure plate" side up. And the 3rd shows the difference in pilot bearings. Something is not right.

Chuck78
June 3rd, 2016, 06:07 AM
So the Rhinopac does not have this problem, but the advance auto Precision unit does?

I got my original renanufactured at Hite Parts Exchange here in Columbus, OH, but I certainly wouldn't mind having a spare of everything on hand. Especially if I am pulling the Saginaw 4sp in favor of a Jeep Aisin AX15 5 sp OD + Novak Adapter plate this season.

kchampagne
June 3rd, 2016, 12:38 PM
The Advance Auto Precision Clutch MU1862-1 was not the right clutch kit, even though this is the part # that comes up online AND at the store. I bought the Rhinopac/AMS/New Generation 04-528 Clutch Kit, and it seems to be the right one for the Muncie SM-420. I haven't installed it yet.

Funky61
June 3rd, 2016, 02:55 PM
That's for checking back in and photos of the lemon disc.

surfamtn
June 14th, 2016, 05:20 AM
Kchampagne,
Did the rhinopac come with the rightpilot bearing and have the very low shaft flange on the flywheel side?

I just removed the clutch on my 305e/sm420 and it looks like flange had been modified by the last guy to sit upsnug to the fly wheel like it should.
I spent an hour looking at clutches at the Carquest counter, all of them had the tall flange. The guy is ordering another that will be in tomorrow. He said the Rhinopac number is listed as the "new" number mu1862-1 and they should be the same.

(Fwiw my clutch problem is on the pressure plate side, one of the bolts that holds spring tension on the fingers broke. The friction disc is worn and needs replaced or rebuilt, but I really need the whole pressure plate side too)

kchampagne
June 14th, 2016, 06:56 AM
Hey Surfamtn,

I just realized you are in Boulder. I'm in Littleton. I haven't installed my kit yet, but it lays flats on the flywheel and everything lines up. Avoid the Advance Auto ones. The MU1862-1 is nowhere near the same as the Rhinopac 04-528. Here are 2 links I had bookmarked for the 04-528. I bought mine from Rockauto even though I try to avoid them.

https://www.amazon.com/New-Generation-04-528-Premium-Clutch/dp/B000CNNV6K/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1465879373&sr=1-2&keywords=04-528+Clutch+Kit


http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1524018&jsn=233

Buster
July 10th, 2016, 09:51 PM
I am having a problem finding a clutch kit for my 1964 GMC V6 305E. I have the friction disc plate just like the one in your photo with the flywheel side that is flush on center hole and springs barely protrude. I have tried the rhino pac 04-528 and one from O'reillys and Napa. I cannot find one that is flush which will allow friction plate to side on flywheel. Any suggestions. Thanks

FetchMeAPepsi
July 10th, 2016, 10:13 PM
I am having a problem finding a clutch kit for my 1964 GMC V6 305E. I have the friction disc plate just like the one in your photo with the flywheel side that is flush on center hole and springs barely protrude. I have tried the rhino pac 04-528 and one from O'reillys and Napa. I cannot find one that is flush which will allow friction plate to side on flywheel. Any suggestions. Thanks



You have to use the bigger pressure plate that comes with the Rhino Pak, not re-use your old pressure plate. But then the 04-528 should work perfectly.

Buster
July 10th, 2016, 10:44 PM
The new pressure plate will work but the friction disc will not work. It does not sit on flywheel flat because the center spline extends out too far when it needs to be flush.

BobBray
July 11th, 2016, 07:32 PM
This sounds like the problem I originally had. Ended up using a new pressure plate but having my disc re-lined. I thought the Rhino-pac disc had enough clearance.

kchampagne
July 11th, 2016, 08:38 PM
The Rhino-Pac should work, but you need to use the complete kit. Your original clutch disc is 11" and the new one is 12" I am not aware of a new kit that is 11".

TJ's GMC
August 6th, 2016, 07:12 AM
Hi guys, now going through the same crap you all had to go through. Needing to order a new clutch kit for my 64 GMC. It has a 67 305E and SM420. This kit looks Exactly the same as what came out. Has anyone used it? There seemed to be so many yes's and no's I am now confused. haha If yes I am getting this one on the way as I wanna be back on the road. www.amsautomotive.com/AMS/Templates/showpage.asp?DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=21&FID=1388&KITID=04-528

FetchMeAPepsi
August 6th, 2016, 06:56 PM
Hi guys, now going through the same crap you all had to go through. Needing to order a new clutch kit for my 64 GMC. It has a 67 305E and SM420. This kit looks Exactly the same as what came out. Has anyone used it? There seemed to be so many yes's and no's I am now confused. haha If yes I am getting this one on the way as I wanna be back on the road. www.amsautomotive.com/AMS/Templates/showpage.asp?DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=21&FID=1388&KITID=04-528


That looks right. I think the big deal is to make sure it has 04-528 in the name and you're good. On mine the throw out bearing (looks like a drinking chalice kinda thing) was HUGE compared to my old one, and it had a grease fitting. But it fit and worked great.

TJ's GMC
August 7th, 2016, 04:35 PM
That looks right. I think the big deal is to make sure it has 04-528 in the name and you're good. On mine the throw out bearing (looks like a drinking chalice kinda thing) was HUGE compared to my old one, and it had a grease fitting. But it fit and worked great.

I noticed the one in pictured in the kit had a grease fitting. Kinda cool!

TJ's GMC
August 13th, 2016, 06:11 PM
This stupid pos clutch kit doesn't fit. Pretty ticked right now.

Funky61
August 13th, 2016, 06:30 PM
That's a pain...TJ, would you post a pic of what you received? It's strange how some mentioned it works and others (yourself now included) say naught.

FetchMeAPepsi
August 13th, 2016, 11:32 PM
This stupid pos clutch kit doesn't fit. Pretty ticked right now.

Did you get the Rhinopac or the other one? Was it 04-528?

TJ's GMC
August 14th, 2016, 01:09 AM
Did you get the Rhinopac or the other one? Was it 04-528?

Rhinopac 04-528. The nub on the flywheel side of the clutch was hitting on the pilot bearing hole. Ended up having to mill the nub flush and am hoping for the best. All this crap has gotten me sicker than a dog so I am going to sleep. haha

FetchMeAPepsi
August 14th, 2016, 01:39 AM
Rhinopac 04-528. The nub on the flywheel side of the clutch was hitting on the pilot bearing hole. Ended up having to mill the nub flush and am hoping for the best. All this crap has gotten me sicker than a dog so I am going to sleep. haha

The Rhinopac was the same one I installed and it fit perfectly. Not sure what was different with yours. Please post pics after the nap so we can see how things turned out.

BobBray
August 16th, 2016, 11:27 PM
I am wondering is the V-6 flywheels changed at some point. When I replaced the clutch on my '67 351E, I could not find a new disc that would work. None of the ones I looked at would sit flush on the flywheel. The original clutch disc was absolutely flat on the flywheel side, nothing protruded. At the time, I did NOT look at a Rhinopac 04-528. My solution was to send the original disc out and have it re-lined. Since there are those on this forum that have used the 04-528, I have no other explanation. There must be different flywheels.

TJ's GMC
August 17th, 2016, 12:03 AM
I am wondering is the V-6 flywheels changed at some point. When I replaced the clutch on my '67 351E, I could not find a new disc that would work. None of the ones I looked at would sit flush on the flywheel. The original clutch disc was absolutely flat on the flywheel side, nothing protruded. At the time, I did NOT look at a Rhinopac 04-528. My solution was to send the original disc out and have it re-lined. Since there are those on this forum that have used the 04-528, I have no other explanation. There must be different flywheels.

The issue I had with mine was similar. I have a 67 305E in my 64 GMC and the rhinopac 04-528 disc is NOT completely flush on the flywheel side. It has a small nub on the splines that the old one doesn't causing it to ride the pilot bearing. My solution was to machine it down and hope for the best. Pictures wouldn't load onto my computer so I ended up dropping the motor back in and then I came down with a virus so I am out for awhile. haha

David R Leifheit
August 17th, 2016, 12:07 AM
I am wondering is the V-6 flywheels changed at some point. When I replaced the clutch on my '67 351E, I could not find a new disc that would work. None of the ones I looked at would sit flush on the flywheel. The original clutch disc was absolutely flat on the flywheel side, nothing protruded. At the time, I did NOT look at a Rhinopac 04-528. My solution was to send the original disc out and have it re-lined. Since there are those on this forum that have used the 04-528, I have no other explanation. There must be different flywheels.

I must be as lost as you are on this.
I have had one of every year (1960-1968) and every one I have pulled apart had what looked to be the same flywheel assembly. A flat flywheel with a recess just deep enough for the bolts. Clutch discs were all flat on one side with the spring pack and nose on the other side.
This for 305s and 351s.

Looking at a picture of the Rhinopac 04-528

https://images.whisystems.com/Smartpages/partinfo_resize/AMS/04-528.jpg

It looks to me like there could possibly be a nose piece on the reverse side of this disc, which means it won't fit (the reverse side should be the flywheel side). If the spring pack sticks out at all it should rub on the bolts.

I think someone else had the nose pressed out and then pressed back in on the other side to make their assembly work (I think I read that here).

I've smashed fingers and dropped parts on my toes enough to where I can't say I have ever seen a difference between flywheels.

bigblockv6
August 18th, 2016, 03:55 AM
The flywheels on the V6 never changed and like David brought up if someone had the nose on the clutch pressed out and turned over to the other side that would work. I can verify that would work because that's what ended up happening to the clutch I bought for my 68 years ago. I was told it would fit the V6 application but it didn't so gave the parts store my old clutch disc and the new one to compare to by the next day everything was right, evidently their supplier sent the disc to a local clutch remanufacturer and they reversed it:thumbsup:

FetchMeAPepsi
September 13th, 2016, 04:52 AM
For someone smarter than me, this picture album just showed on the main page. I looked at it, but I'm not sure what they're trying to show. We can swap out for a centerforce clutch model maybe?

http://6066gmcclub.com/album.php?albumid=15

Buster
September 14th, 2016, 02:05 AM
I have the 64 305E and the Rhino pac did not work for mine. I tried a couple other ones from O'reilly and Napa and they did not work. As someone stated in a previous post the one side is flat. I sent mine to Brake & Clutch Supply 254-752-4307 in Waco, Texas. The guys were very nice and did a great job. Turn around was great.

BobBray
September 20th, 2016, 04:51 AM
Isn't it ironic that we have all these pictures posted of these new clutch discs that supposedly work, but NONE of the pictures show the flywheel side! There is a picture of the correct used disc. Looks to me that the Centerforce disc is the plain old Chevy style, no way it will work.

GBCustoms
October 3rd, 2016, 05:16 AM
I have a 351E with the NP-435, is the clutch the same as the SM420?

BobBray
October 4th, 2016, 09:45 AM
I have a 351E with the NP-435, is the clutch the same as the SM420?

I believe so.