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Donny
June 17th, 2014, 03:37 AM
Well here we go started on the project pulled the dump box off , cab , motor , both transmissions , All the way down to the bare frame ,
What a greasy oily mess , should of started this project about 10 years ago
Not as young as I used to be,
Found out It had a 401 Magnum , thought it was just a 401 they must of replaced the motor took both of the transmissions in to get resealed and gone through , took power steering box , power assist ram and pump in to get rebuilt
The truck has a 5/16 thick main frame , with a quarter inch up right fish plate laid over the main frame which dirt and water got in between and rusted and then bowed out the outer frame ,
Everything was going just fine tell that I am having a new outer frame made
Those rivets are a pain in the butt

FetchMeAPepsi
June 17th, 2014, 05:22 AM
Im not sure what that picture is of. Is it a bed of your truck?

More pics please! :thumbsup:

Donny
June 17th, 2014, 02:01 PM
I was trying to put more pics but it wouldn't let me ,I will try again

Donny
June 17th, 2014, 02:05 PM
Here's more pics , it will only let me put on each reply ,

Donny
June 17th, 2014, 02:09 PM
The only way to move the cab around

Donny
June 17th, 2014, 02:12 PM
Now the fun starts removing the rivets from the frame

Donny
June 17th, 2014, 02:14 PM
Check out the outer frame

Donny
June 17th, 2014, 02:26 PM
Here's another pick taking off the cab , check out the firetruck in the background
Bought the firetruck for parts but after picking it up is so clean it's like brand-new , it only has 8,700 miles on it, it's a 5000 series came with a 478 , I can't take it apart I'll have to take apart one of the other trucks

Donny
June 17th, 2014, 02:36 PM
The firetruck everything works lights, siren, purrs like a kitten

RustyNut
June 17th, 2014, 11:43 PM
Diggin on the fire truck.... I have owned 2 in the past. What are your plans for it?

Donny
June 18th, 2014, 02:40 AM
Well I don't know I bought some new tires for it, yes I will cruise it around and go to car shows or truck shows , it's too nice to take apart need parts for my other trucks , I will send you some pictures of the inside

Donny
June 18th, 2014, 02:42 AM
My iPad will only let me send one picture at a time I can figure out how to change the name of the JPEG files

Donny
June 18th, 2014, 02:44 AM
The steering wheel is like brand-new you know how when they start getting worn black start showing through

BarryGMC
June 19th, 2014, 04:59 AM
Glad to see I am not the only guy busting rivets. I use an 8# and a cold chisel. Takes 5 or 6 hits and pop.

Donny
June 19th, 2014, 10:45 PM
Yeah I thought I was the only one taking rivets out what a job!!!
I think mine might be going to some thicker metal the mainframe is 5/16 thick the outer frame is a 1/4 " and then the suspension is about 5/16 it also has a inter frame where the suspension is another 1/4 "
The only way I can get them out is to cut their heads off with a scarfing tip and get the rivet red-hot and pound them out , the two frames and the suspension brackets it's a little over 1" thick,
Could almost use you and that big sledgehammer and your punch LOL

Donny
June 19th, 2014, 11:47 PM
Pics of the frame

Donny
June 19th, 2014, 11:50 PM
Going to put this Peterbilt air trac suspension in air ride the only way to go.
its rough ride with that old Hendrickson suspension

Donny
June 24th, 2014, 01:44 AM
Well got a little more done this weekend rear bogies are out , rivets for a pain in the but
The ones on the hangers for the suspension they have shoulders on them the only
Way to get them out is to drill them:pullinghairout:

Donny
June 24th, 2014, 01:51 AM
Had to make a engine cart , got tired of moving it around with the forklift

Donny
June 24th, 2014, 01:52 AM
Having problems pics

Donny
June 24th, 2014, 01:57 AM
More pics

Donny
July 21st, 2014, 03:17 AM
Finally got all the rivets out !! Wow what a job that was

Donny
July 21st, 2014, 03:25 AM
More pics

Donny
July 21st, 2014, 03:34 AM
More pics

Donny
October 21st, 2014, 02:19 PM
Put the frame on a rotisserie almost done with the frame

Donny
December 8th, 2014, 12:09 AM
Getting there slowly but surely lot of work fabricating and fitting all the mounts

Donny
December 8th, 2014, 12:17 AM
Polished fuel tanks and hangers

Donny
December 8th, 2014, 12:21 AM
Cheating just a little bit rigged up a auto twirler and fabricated it to rotate the frame makes it a lot easier. Everything is so darn heavy

Donny
March 8th, 2015, 05:39 AM
Just about got The Frame , axles , differentials , Air valves , and the plumbing done

abus319
April 15th, 2015, 03:00 PM
You do nice work! I wish I had a frame roti or you lived next door :-)

Donny
April 16th, 2015, 04:28 AM
Thanks there is 160 acres for sale next to me lol

Donny
April 20th, 2015, 01:21 AM
Rattle snake
Look what was hiding in My truck as I was working on it
We were eye to eye

Donny
April 20th, 2015, 01:28 AM
Still pluging away got the frame plumbed , air bags, air valves , electrical , train horns
New brakes and drums ,

Donny
April 20th, 2015, 01:30 AM
Electric over air valves , had to really put my thinking cap To wire all this

Donny
April 20th, 2015, 01:31 AM
Got the train horns mounted

Donny
April 20th, 2015, 01:34 AM
Got the wheels and tires mounted

Donny
April 20th, 2015, 01:39 AM
Taking apart my third donor truck , was a fire truck I am going to have a couple motors for sale this one only has 38,000 Didnt try to start it but it does turn over The motor is un molested

Donny
April 20th, 2015, 01:43 AM
**** rattlesnake was underneath the truck as I was taking it apart
You can bet that I'm doublechecking now

Donny
April 20th, 2015, 01:45 AM
Sorry this is where Iran into the rattlesnake

abus319
April 20th, 2015, 03:52 AM
Poor thing was just a baby!!!

bigblockv6
April 20th, 2015, 06:01 AM
Poor thing was just a baby!!!

That's when they're the most deadly!:lolsmack2: It obviously got squashed.
:ahhhh:

Donny
April 21st, 2015, 02:53 AM
478 M , Motor should be done in a couple weeks
Got the block back had to put a sleeve in it

Donny
April 21st, 2015, 02:55 AM
Magnum :Heads are finished

TJ's GMC
April 22nd, 2015, 09:17 PM
Those are some big valves! lol Did you have a regrind done? Sorry...I haven't read through the whole build.

Donny
April 24th, 2015, 01:03 AM
They were brand new heads still in the GM box there was a little surface rust so we blasted them , new valves , rotaters and springs
Had to resurface them ther were some dry spots , basically do a valve job
They are pretty!!!
Hastings sent us the wrong oil control ring , so they will be coming Monday
Should have this baby back together in a week or two :thumbsup:

abus319
April 28th, 2015, 12:24 PM
Backing up a bit, where did you get your fuel tanks?

Donny
April 29th, 2015, 02:18 AM
Well I usually buy my tanks for my Peterbilt's at alenjack , but they were just too expensive so I got these from alumi tank , I kind of wanted them period Correct went with the flat ends in Lou of the Peterbilt Domed ends

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they did a real nice job haven't took the protective tape off that yet hopefully everything is okay

abus319
April 30th, 2015, 01:31 PM
Thanks, they look good!
I looked at the site. I like the international style step tanks too. Thats a lot of fuel outside the frame though.

Donny
April 30th, 2015, 04:44 PM
Yeah I don't think they have those style of tanks on the GMC's or Chevys tell the 70s
You would just want to make sure that you had crossmembers real close otherwise it could bow the frame

abus319
May 2nd, 2015, 03:46 PM
Hmmm hadn't thought of the bow issue, thanks for the heads up.

Donny
May 23rd, 2015, 09:03 PM
Well set the new cab on the frame everything fit had to make different cab mounts
I have five different trucks 5000 , 5500,6500 series and the back mounts on every cab is different

Donny
May 23rd, 2015, 09:04 PM
Got the motor back can't wait to hear it run 478 Magnum

Donny
June 1st, 2015, 02:30 PM
Got the motor back and painted , powder coated intake and thermostat housing

Donny
June 1st, 2015, 02:32 PM
Yeah who put the motor in the frame today , installed the air compressor , and power steering pump , and brackets

bigblockv6
June 2nd, 2015, 03:52 PM
Donny, the detail on the engine looks great, where did get the red HEI cap from? Like to get one for my 478.

Donny
June 2nd, 2015, 05:19 PM
Thanks ,Got it from this guy on eBay ,heidizzy
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Donny
June 2nd, 2015, 09:05 PM
Big block this is the style of distributor cap that I have , but this one is for a V-8 couldn't find one for the V-6 like I got
Maybe you can go on this guys eBay store and maybe you can go on this guys eBay store and buy one find one
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bigblockv6
June 3rd, 2015, 03:54 PM
I think Accel makes a red HEI 6 cylinder cap, I will check with HEIDIZZY first.

BillT
June 4th, 2015, 01:58 PM
Late to the conversations, lol.

Is the Green truck a 6500 Series?

Donny
June 5th, 2015, 04:21 AM
Yes it is

BillT
June 5th, 2015, 05:20 AM
I would be interested in knowing the details of it originally. Engine, Trans, GVW, etc.

I used to drive a '62 6500.

Donny
June 26th, 2015, 03:50 AM
Hi Bill
Yes the truck has a spicer 5 speed main box # model number 5652
The brownie is a four-speed Spicer model number 6041
the rear ends not sure what they were but they were old the Jackshaft went into the power divider in Lou of the back of the front differential
I would imagine they were probably SS HD's Rockwell
I put peterbilt air track with eaton rear ends
The motor is a 47 The motor is a 478 Magnum

Donny
June 26th, 2015, 04:04 AM
Cab should be done in about a month , lotta holes in the top of the cab to fill in, beings this was a fire truck they drilled like 1 inch holes in the roof about 10 of them
She's Looking good though

BillT
June 26th, 2015, 04:20 AM
Looks good.

My 6500 was just a Single Axle. Had a 478 V-6 with a Clark 5-Speed Trans and a 2-Speed Rear, 10-20 Tires, Spoke Wheels, Air Brakes and a GVW of 32,000. Also had Power Steering.

Keep us posted on your project.

Bill

Donny
June 26th, 2015, 04:41 AM
This truck I took a part for parts had a 478 , Clark five speed transmission with a two speed rear axle probably similar to the one you used to drive
Had no power steering so it had a great big steering wheel
I needed the engine front crossmember and motor mounts and motor parts
Bought it from a guy in North Carolina it was all rusted out I hated to take it apart Because it did run , the guy that rebuilds these old transmissions he said the Spicer's were the best , The Clark's where a week transmission I have it sitting on the floor trying to figure out what I'm going to do with it

BillT
June 26th, 2015, 05:21 AM
Looks exactly like my old 6500 except for the color and wheel base. My truck had a 16 Ft Flat Bed Dump on it. Even though it had Power Steering, it still had the big steering wheel, lol.

My 5-Speed Clark, never gave us any trouble. The Shifter Pattern on it was:

24R
351

Going from Granny 1st to 2nd was fun.

It also had the irregular Shifting Sequence:

1L
1H
2L
2H
3L
3H
4L
5L
4H
5H

Bill

Donny
September 19th, 2015, 02:28 PM
We got color on the cab , time to go back to work , had about 4 week vacation
From working on it every week end for the last year and a half
My wife calls my truck my girlfriend

Donny
September 19th, 2015, 02:48 PM
Boy is she red , had a heck of a time on inside color , went with the medium
Fawn 22151 but it was way too dark had to keep adding colors to lighten it up

TJ's GMC
September 19th, 2015, 03:56 PM
Boy that truck is perrty! :thumbsup:

Donny
September 20th, 2015, 03:55 AM
Thanks TJ:thumbsup:

BillT
September 21st, 2015, 01:53 AM
The paint sure is beautiful.

Is that the older Firetruck cab with the large Back Glass?

BillT
September 21st, 2015, 01:53 AM
The paint sure is beautiful.

Is that the older Firetruck Cab with the large Back Glass?

Donny
September 21st, 2015, 04:46 AM
Yes I have two fire trucks , or I had to fire trucks , really I wanted the smaller back window but this cab was in such good shape, they undercoated the whole underneath and there was virtually no rust , but the problem was getting the undercoating off media blasting wouldn't take it off , so they chemically Took it off , then media blasted

Donny
October 24th, 2015, 01:42 PM
Slowly but surely , wiring is kicking my butt

Donny
October 24th, 2015, 01:44 PM
Getting ready to put the cab on the frame

Nate
October 25th, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nice job Donny, your attention to detail is excellent. Great results takes time.

Donny
October 27th, 2015, 02:24 AM
Thank you Nate :signthankspin:

Donny
November 2nd, 2015, 04:26 AM
Getting closer ,

6066gmcguy
November 3rd, 2015, 01:26 AM
Thats looks better then new! Nice job, keep up the great work.

Donny
November 3rd, 2015, 03:29 AM
Inside finally coming together ,

TJ's GMC
November 4th, 2015, 06:30 PM
:thumbsup:

abus319
November 13th, 2015, 12:48 PM
Thats beautiful workmanship!!!

wsignman
November 26th, 2015, 01:06 AM
Such a great looking restore

Donny
December 24th, 2015, 03:45 AM
Thank you guys really appreciate i

Donny
December 24th, 2015, 03:59 AM
Well I was having fun until I started doing the wiring for the dash and plumbing for airbrakes inside the cab , The wiring consist of all the normal stuff Plus tailgate lock , tailgate raise , air mudflaps , PTO, train horns , these all Run on Mac solenoid air valves , then you got low air switches low air buzzers, air brake light switch , then I put transmission temperature gauge to differential gauges so wiring those all in 's, spotlights , all the wiring for air-conditioning , Electric fuel pump , Etc. etc.
I will be so glad when I get this part all done and get back putting the rest of the cab together , had the panels made for the dash I want to go original but just couldn't make them look like I wanted them to look

TJ's GMC
December 24th, 2015, 04:09 PM
Take your time on the wiring for sure. lol

Donny
March 30th, 2016, 06:57 AM
Well I'm getting back on schedule had a little motor problem I had to dismantle the truck take the motor out She's just about done except for the interior and the dump box

Donny
March 30th, 2016, 06:59 AM
Another pic

Donny
March 30th, 2016, 07:05 AM
Looking for a straight stock big truck bumper if anybody knows where one is

bigblockv6
March 30th, 2016, 03:35 PM
Donny the black background behind the grille and hood definitely is a nice finishing touch to the correct details of these trucks!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

GMCNUT
March 30th, 2016, 04:36 PM
Donny the black background behind the grille and hood definitely is a nice finishing touch to the correct details of these trucks!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Has anyone ever seen a 60-66 GMC with Black paint behind the grill? Every one I've ever seen was solid body color unless it was made by Chevrolet. Maybe big trucks were done this way and 1000 series were not? educate me once again

bigblockv6
March 30th, 2016, 05:33 PM
That's because all the GMC trucks you've seen have been repainted, you find an original and you will see the black background behind the grille as well as the hood and center piece of the hood. Original literature pics confirm this:lolsmack2:

Funky61
March 30th, 2016, 05:38 PM
Your Truck is really coming together! As far as the bumper goes...

Hard to tell its condition or even if it will fit plus it's a different style bumper;
(cleaner looking I think). He's selling the whole truck,
but he also parts them out too.

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Donny
March 30th, 2016, 05:40 PM
Here's a pic more to come

Donny
March 30th, 2016, 05:48 PM
This is one I took apart

Donny
March 31st, 2016, 01:15 AM
I saw that truck on craigslist as well , yes I think that was the lighter duty trucks did had that bumper , I have a couple that style that are Real straight
Ryan to use period Correct going to try to make one it doesn't turn out I will have to use that style thanks for the pic

GMCNUT
March 31st, 2016, 04:39 PM
That's because all the GMC trucks you've seen have been repainted, you find an original and you will see the black background behind the grille as well as the hood and center piece of the hood. Original literature pics confirm this:lolsmack2:

Here you go Pete - this is my 100% untouched never repainted 1964 Custom Cab GMC. As you can see, there is no Black paint behind the grill, and there never was. No black paint behind the grill on the 65 Suburban I sold that had 100% original paint either. It had a solid Terrace Blue grille support just like you see on this light green colored truck. We need Jon Krogh to weigh in - he's got some original factory paint trucks and from the pics I saw none of his had black paint behind the grill on his either. Maybe certain assembly plants sometimes used the Chevy-like Black grille support paint, but the non-repainted original survivors around here don't seem to have it, and I've so far never seen one anywhere. There was an untouched Maroon 66 GMC with factory paint in the junkyard last year and I bought that grill and support panel and sold them - no black paint.

bigblockv6
March 31st, 2016, 06:25 PM
I've worked on many original trucks that had the black backgrounds, many were faded and almost hard to see, the black was a very thin coat. You will find that factory pics support that the black background. It's understandable some trucks may have not been painted that at times. A good example is of a truck with the black background was that 62 barn find. Go into the archives and check it out.

Donny
March 31st, 2016, 07:22 PM
I know on the bigger trucks That the piece that surrounds the grill is larger than on the pick ups as you can see from this pic this truck has never been painted and it was black behind the grill , in my opinion I think it looks better makes the grill standout

GMCNUT
March 31st, 2016, 08:04 PM
if that is off a GMC its the first time I've ever seen a GMC support with Black behind the grill like all the Chevrolet trucks had. A guy I know up in Spokane WA has a veritable ton of these grille supports and loose 60-66 GMC parts etc and he said all his are solid body color too - he said he's never seen one with the Black either. This is certainly strange for sure - he is sending me pics of all his factory paint ones so I will share. Gotta be something written about this in the factory paint regulations if anyone has them - don't think my books have anything about 60's GMC paint regs but will check

GMCNUT
March 31st, 2016, 08:14 PM
So, just so you all know why it matters to me, I am about to have my 65 Suburban re-painted and was expecting to paint the grille support solid body color as per my belief that all 1000 series pickups (or at least all Custom Cab trucks anyway) had solid color grille supports vs Chevrolet which did a three color grille support on its C-10's adding a White band around the Black center section. I always thought GMC just took the time and cost out of painting its grill supports any special way and opted for the solid color grill supports to simplify assembly line painting.
Now I have to re-think this idea a bit and decide what I think about adding the Black if its something pretty common that others have observed and I have somehow missed over my years of observation and learning about 60's GMC's....

bigblockv6
March 31st, 2016, 10:15 PM
Chevrolet trucks without the white band still had the black back ground as well. For some reason there were inconsistencies with the black backgrounds on some trucks. Possibly the assembly plant ran out of flat black paint or it was just a quality control issue like some plant employees figured they could get by without this procedure. Included is a factory pic showing the black background. It is one of the details of these trucks that has nearly disappeared since most of these trucks have been repainted and body shops have paid no attention to this detail, and that's real easy to overlook. I painted a 66 GMC back in 2002 for a customer, I was definitely concerned to get all that right. After getting the truck all done I took pictures and noticed that I didn't paint behind the grille, I did get the hood background though so I had to go back and paint behind the grille. When you compare one of these trucks with the black background vs one without it is a noticeable difference and the one with the black background looks far better:upyes:

bigblockv6
March 31st, 2016, 10:26 PM
The paint regs don't even mention the tailgate letters, they're more so for two tone combinations. The guy with the supports never seen any black but then how many have original pant?

bigblockv6
April 1st, 2016, 02:35 AM
Here's a 1965 factory assembly line photo, as you can see it looks black behind those grilles and hood specifically with the truck in the background with the white grille. Now the photo of the 60 or 61 shows the black after the grille was removed, a perfect example of how after 50 years the thin coat of flat black fades and literally just washes away:bump5::bump5:

GMCNUT
April 1st, 2016, 05:44 AM
Well, I am glad you posted this assembly line black and white picture, because I can see past the edge of the front trucks' grille on the drivers side and tell the support is definitely not black behind it - I don't have the best eyes in the world but I'd say that picture definitely looks to show a solid body color grille support like my 64....

You asked how many original paint grill supports my friend has, and I honestly don't know yet - he's digging through them now. I know he has disassembled a bunch of 60's GMC's and very very few Chevrolets so 99% of his stash is off GMC's so we'll see what he digs up and see if anything he has shows us anything new

Donny
April 1st, 2016, 06:02 AM
They must've made them both ways because the second truck in line
I snapshoted it and blew it up and it's definitely black behind the grill
Can't really tell if it was a custom cab it is a panel truck though

Donny
April 1st, 2016, 02:44 PM
I don't know I blew the first Truck picture up sure looks black to me
Let me know what you think

bigblockv6
April 1st, 2016, 04:13 PM
Donny, if you look to the left of the "G" letter the part of the panel just to the right of the headlight appears darker than the grille. This particular pic is harder to distinguish but the truck behind it definitely depicts a black background, same with the prior pic of the red 4wd.

aphaynes
April 1st, 2016, 04:50 PM
It doesn't matter to me who is right or wrong in this case, but making judgments off low resolution black and white photos is not definitive. Any color back behind a white foreground object, completely shaded, will appear black in this type of photo. You still have the lack of lighting into the background area of the grill with the truck in front, so same lighting principal applies. It may be black, though it does not look as black as the bumper; or it could be body color just shaded so it looks darker. Sorry, but that is just the nature of the photography and lighting. The red truck is a better argument, but something tells me there is no real resolution to this argument as different plants probably did different things. Mine appears to be and always have been the same as the body color. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. That's my two cents and is worth even less. :)

aphaynes
April 1st, 2016, 04:57 PM
All you can tell on this one is that there is white over-spray from someone who got lazy freshening up the grill.

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Donny
April 1st, 2016, 05:07 PM
Could be one of the seven wonders of the world Lol , I remember a couple of my dads friends that bought Gmc Ten Wheeler dump trucks New 65 and 66 when I was a kid ,
now these are big trucks and they were painted black behind the grill from the factory
As a kid I used to polish on these trucks Every weekend my dad had a 62 Chevy dump truck always like the GMC trucks better , seem to be more of those around in those days

bigblockv6
April 1st, 2016, 10:26 PM
Here's a pic of a 60 GMC magazine add, black background and you can see the transiting from light blue to black right below the "G" and "C" letters.

bigblockv6
April 1st, 2016, 10:46 PM
The upload failed the first time:lolsmack2:, this should do it!

GMCNUT
April 3rd, 2016, 07:50 PM
So the problem with pre-production GM photos like the 60 GMC in the above ad is that so many were photographed with all kinds of non-production features GM designers were playing around with at the time - this truck for example does not have the chrome around the windshield, but in production probably would have. Many 1950's and 60's GM pictures show odd-ball paint schemes that never made it to the production line. GMC played with the idea of painting its cabs white like Chevrolet during the late fifties but of course ended up doing its own thing.

My friend in Spokane sent this photo of a GMC grille support off a real production truck that has never been repainted - its exactly like my green 64 was and like Alex' Green truck is. This photo shows all we need to know to know that solid body color is correct for grille support repaints, and if anyone wants to do the Chevy-style Black paint behind them that should be considered correct as well. I do wonder what color Ed Snyders' Dads Suburban had - the body color or Black behind that grille.....

Donny
April 3rd, 2016, 09:38 PM
Well like I say this is a picture of one that hasn't been repainted and this is not from a friend this is from a truck I took apart never been repainted if you want to come look at it you are more than welcome
And it is from a GMC 6500 series Not a Chevy

Donny
April 3rd, 2016, 09:41 PM
Pic

bigblockv6
April 3rd, 2016, 09:48 PM
Here are pics of an original 61 from the sites photo album that the owner contributed as pics of original details for restorations. From what I've researched I will not deny that many trucks just came with the body color rather than black, Yet many trucks also came with the black background, so why did GMC do that? Ed Snyder's green 66 built in Fremont was body colored, the 66 I painted was also a Fremont truck but had the black background, I would think it was some sort of quality control issue. As far as the Chevy style, GMC never painted the white surround in that area.

Donny
April 3rd, 2016, 09:48 PM
Pic 2

Ed Snyder
April 4th, 2016, 05:16 AM
I do wonder what color Ed Snyders' Dads Suburban had - the body color or Black behind that grille.....

My Dad's one ton Suburban, which he bought new and has never been repainted, came from the Pontiac, Michigan, plant with body color behind the grille.

6066gmcguy
April 5th, 2016, 02:04 PM
So what we can conclued from all this is you can pretty much do what you want as there will always be someone with info to back up your claim. Painted Black or Body color the choice is yours. Its just a hobby and should be fun, once its no longer fun, its time to find a new hobby.

GMCNUT
April 5th, 2016, 04:32 PM
My Dad's one ton Suburban, which he bought new and has never been repainted, came from the Pontiac, Michigan, plant with body color behind the grille.

Thanks for sending this picture and info Ed!

so far it looks like we have Black painted grill supports on a couple 60-61's Pete found and on Donny's 6500 series truck, and from what I can tell it appears that most of the 1000 series trucks from the 62-66 years seem to have body color grille supports. Not sure what the deal is about this difference between models and years, or assembly plant painting regulation differences, etc....interesting history to know in any case

Donny
April 5th, 2016, 06:49 PM
I have a few books on The history of GMC it shows them both ways but doesn't talk about why they did it or why they didn't do it I guess it comes down to what ever you like
Thanks for all the replies everybody I guess we've all learned something
And yes I'm still having fun :signthankspin:

GMCNUT
April 5th, 2016, 10:25 PM
I actually think the Black behind the grill looks better - especially against a chrome grille, just didn't think GMC ever did them that way, so now I'll have to ponder what to do when we paint the 66 Suburban. Solid body color behind the grill looks a little unfinished and more like someone just didn't know or didn't care to add the Black back on when they did their repaint (tons of hot rodded truck paint jobs for example) so I think I am leaning to do mine with the Black paint added now that I know some came that way and it would be "correct" to do it that way. Learned a lot from this group and threads like this over the years and like Donny, appreciate everyone's valuable input

Donny
April 25th, 2016, 03:14 AM
We took her out of the barn today First time in 2 1/2 years
Just got to finish the inside and waiting for the dump box
Looked for a place to break the bottle of champagne didn't want to scratch her though

Donny
April 25th, 2016, 03:19 AM
She ran like a champ

BillT
April 25th, 2016, 03:27 AM
Looks great.

I can't remember without researching back, lol, but did you go with the 478 Gas? Also curious to what Trans you went with.

GMCDAC
April 25th, 2016, 03:40 AM
Beautiful Donny, just saw it on FB too the "GMC Big Rig" page.

DAC

Donny
April 27th, 2016, 04:52 PM
Thank:signthankspin: you GMCDAC

Donny
April 27th, 2016, 04:56 PM
Billt I went with 478 magnum v6 gas , transmissions 5 speed main box
4 speed auxiliary

BillT
April 28th, 2016, 04:00 AM
Nice !!

azlamm65GMC
May 18th, 2016, 05:33 AM
Nice

IronGutsSpeedShop
July 16th, 2016, 04:01 PM
really awesome truck! what size tires are you rolling on?

Donny
July 17th, 2016, 05:21 PM
Thank you
295/75/22.5 they are a low-profile 22.5
I really wanted 11R/22.5 Little bit taller but I got these at a good deal
Just waiting for the dump box to come from Oregon it's all done and should be here this week

TJ's GMC
July 17th, 2016, 09:15 PM
I am so jealous right now.

Donny
July 17th, 2016, 10:37 PM
Ha ha !
You know that is where my box is
Being built cave junction at Rogue
(Kieth hill )
I see that is where you're from TJ ?

TJ's GMC
July 18th, 2016, 12:01 AM
Ha ha !
You know that is where my box is
Being built cave junction at Rogue
(Kieth hill )
I see that is where you're from TJ ?

Yep, been living here in CJ for 12 years. Planning on moving out of this crap town soon. haha Tired of pot growers.

Donny
July 18th, 2016, 02:52 AM
Yeah I was down there about 20 years ago when Rogue was just getting started (Keith) now I think he's The largest the business in that town maybe even in the county , but you're right it was like jumping back into the 60s

IronGutsSpeedShop
July 18th, 2016, 04:54 PM
Thank you
295/75/22.5 they are a low-profile 22.5
I really wanted 11R/22.5 Little bit taller but I got these at a good deal
Just waiting for the dump box to come from Oregon it's all done and should be here this week

Those look great and really tall that's why i was asking! Almost 40" tall right?

TJ's GMC
July 18th, 2016, 10:59 PM
Yeah I was down there about 20 years ago when Rogue was just getting started (Keith) now I think he's The largest the business in that town maybe even in the county , but you're right it was like jumping back into the 60s

I hate it. lol

Donny
September 27th, 2016, 02:50 PM
Well finally got it finished a few odds and ends I have to do took her out for a spin last weekend she ran like a champ

Funky61
September 27th, 2016, 08:52 PM
Looks real sweet; Keep on Truckin'...

FetchMeAPepsi
September 27th, 2016, 11:37 PM
Well finally got it finished a few odds and ends I have to do took her out for a spin last weekend she ran like a champ

I bet you got a lot of looks in that sucker! Bright red to boot! Are you still smilin about the ride? Man I'd never get that smile wiped off Haha!

:upyes:

BillT
October 2nd, 2016, 05:47 PM
Looks great with the Dump Bed on there.

It's cool to see a great example of what my '62 looked like when it was new. I didn't start driving it till '71.

I notice that you have 5500 Emblems on it though.

Ain't it a 6500?

Donny
October 2nd, 2016, 10:00 PM
Thanks Bill
Yeah I found that 5500 on the eBay brand-new NOS
I only have one 6500 that I had re chromed
Still looking for another 6500

BillT
October 3rd, 2016, 12:08 AM
I'll let you know if I see one.

The 5500 Emblem is pretty rare.

It will be worth something to the right person when you find it's replacement.

Donny
October 3rd, 2016, 12:45 AM
I bet you got a lot of looks in that sucker! Bright red to boot! Are you still smilin about the ride? Man I'd never get that smile wiped off Haha!

:upyes: yeah still got a smile on my face lol yeah getting a lot of looks haven't took it too many places yet finally got the vibrations so today I had to shim the differentials and adjust the brownie

Donny
October 3rd, 2016, 12:52 AM
Finally got all the vibrations fixed today
Truck had a terrible vibrational about 45 MPH , had to shim number three axle
It's amazing how much the airbag height changes is the pitch of the two differentials
I got her up to 62 MPH today felt like I was doing 100

Donny
October 3rd, 2016, 01:02 AM
Looks real sweet; Keep on Truckin'...

Thanks funky 61

BillT
October 3rd, 2016, 01:26 AM
I got her up to 62 MPH today felt like I was doing 100

Funny you mention 62 MPH. That's the exact number that my '62 6500 topped out at. Back then and on the roads I was driving on, it was plenty enough. I also drove that truck during the "double nickel" days back in the '70's that was enforced by the government. But they let trucks and buses go 65. It was strange passing cars like crazy, in that big 'ol heavy truck, lol.

Donny
October 3rd, 2016, 01:36 AM
I Can't remember how fast my 62 Jimmy went back in the 70s
But these trucks came with 707 gears , I put Eaton 402s diffs with 614 gears
Does about 60 at 2500 it's actually perfect