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wrknman_25
November 17th, 2018, 03:24 PM
Does anyone happen to have a part number for points upgrade for a 305a V6. Having trouble getting spark and about to give up on my V6. 61 GMC 4x4.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181117/f4b59a0c02f9846a0e2b1df26198376f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181117/6af8d3531f28bb7cbdd33ea049b57c12.jpg
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Ed Snyder
November 17th, 2018, 07:11 PM
Does anyone happen to have a part number for points upgrade for a 305a V6. Having trouble getting spark and about to give up on my V6. 61 GMC 4x4
Please don't give up on your V6!
Give this a try:
https://www.amazon.com/Pertronix-1164-Cylinder-Delco-Ignitor/dp/B000N2U5VO
https://www.jegs.com/i/Pertronix/751/1164/10002/-1
AZKen
November 17th, 2018, 10:21 PM
"Having trouble getting spark" does not tell us anything. Do you want help diagnosing a well thought out 100 year old ignition points system or want to "upgrade"? Whatever that means. I would stay far away from Pertronix. There are more distractors than proponents. Stay with GM, like Buick mod or fix what is wrong with your stock system. If you want help with that, tell us what you have tried/replaced/tested and what is wrong with motor/spark/etc.
Starts, won't start, won't stay running, no fire whatsoever, stumbles on acceleration, won't idle, fires a little...........
Ed Snyder
November 18th, 2018, 02:01 AM
I would stay far away from Pertronix. There are more distractors than proponents.
Pertronix has been in business for over 20 years with a steadily increasing range of products offered. See http://shop.pertronix.com/ and http://shop.pertronix.com/catalog/seo_sitemap/category/. They wouldn't still be in business if they sold junk or had a bad reputation. Summit Racing and Jegs wouldn't be selling them either. I personally have had nothing but good luck with their products on 4 or 5 different GMC V6s. If it makes you nervous to run with one, just keep your old points in the glove box. It's easy to swap back to them.
I just did a brief internet search and found way more positive reviews than negative ones for Pertronix products.
Your other option for going to electronic ignition is the Buick V6 distributor conversion. Just be prepared to spend more money and more time if you go this route.
BillT
November 18th, 2018, 03:31 AM
I always liked Points and kept them in every vehicle that had them from the factory.
There must be some simple solution to your problem.
Have you tried a new Coil?
George Bongert
November 18th, 2018, 04:37 PM
Pertronix has been in business for over 20 years with a steadily increasing range of products offered. See http://shop.pertronix.com/ and http://shop.pertronix.com/catalog/seo_sitemap/category/. They wouldn't still be in business if they sold junk or had a bad reputation. Summit Racing and Jegs wouldn't be selling them either. I personally have had nothing but good luck with their products on 4 or 5 different GMC V6s. If it makes you nervous to run with one, just keep your old points in the glove box. It's easy to swap back to them.
I just did a brief internet search and found way more positive reviews than negative ones for Pertronix products.
Your other option for going to electronic ignition is the Buick V6 distributor conversion. Just be prepared to spend more money and more time if you go this route.
I have to agree with Ed on this one. Pertronix offers a high quality product. I installed a Pertronix Electronic Ignition kit on a friend's International Farmall Super H tractor over 4 years ago, and he is quite pleased with it. Very reasonably priced in my opinion, and very easy to install. No special tools or modifications are required. Also, in addition to the fact that your points and condenser may be bad, check your ignition coil too. There is a good possibility (due to its age) that it may be bad as well.
jbgroby
November 19th, 2018, 01:24 PM
For what its worth, I switched to Pertronix over 8 years back, never had any problems. Well worth the $75.00 bucks.
TJ's GMC
November 19th, 2018, 05:09 PM
I also agree with Ed, I've been using the same pertronix unit for 6 years now with no problems. First on a 292 engine and now on the v6 about 2 years ago. Daily drove it for a good year with no issues as well. They aren't the Best, but they're not Junk either.
ilvracn
November 19th, 2018, 05:16 PM
you cant get too hot of spark. hei is the best, pertronics is a close second.
Rick
FetchMeAPepsi
November 20th, 2018, 06:58 PM
As one of the few "sky is falling" members here, I have to chime in and say that computer ignition is great, but it isn't original and maybe more importantly if Russia, China, or some terrorist fires of a nuclear or dirty bomb your truck will be useless. Exactly as good as any computer controlled brand new one. Meaning to say it won't work at all.
On the other hand, points don't care if terrorists are around. They get your family moving regardless.
Just my 2 cents.
wrknman_25
November 20th, 2018, 10:14 PM
True, but not running taking up space in my shop is worthless also. I bought this truck running drove it a couple times then not getting any spark. I just want to drive it.
Ed Snyder
November 20th, 2018, 11:18 PM
As one of the few "sky is falling" members here, I have to chime in and say that computer ignition is great, but it isn't original and maybe more importantly if Russia, China, or some terrorist fires of a nuclear or dirty bomb your truck will be useless. Exactly as good as any computer controlled brand new one. Meaning to say it won't work at all.
On the other hand, points don't care if terrorists are around. They get your family moving regardless.
Just my 2 cents.
Just another reason to keep your old points in the glove box after you install Pertronix.
AZKen
November 21st, 2018, 05:02 AM
Keeping the points handy is a great idea and compromise. Pertronix seems to have good support here. That's worth something.
I guess poster does not want help with the actual issue, which may not even be fixed with HEI or Pertronix.
TJ's GMC
November 28th, 2018, 06:02 PM
True, but not running taking up space in my shop is worthless also. I bought this truck running drove it a couple times then not getting any spark. I just want to drive it.
How about just going to Napa and getting a new coil, condenser, and points?
They also sell the pertronix which comes with a coil and module. The coil bolts in place of the old one and the module bolts in place of the points using the distributor in the truck.
You may have other electrical issues causing no spark as well. Engine isn't the problem it's something else. Stock coil, points and condenser is cheap so start there.
wrknman_25
November 28th, 2018, 06:07 PM
Thanks for the reply. I have infact ordered the pertronix points. Hope to get it on the road again.
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