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aphaynes March 19th, 2014 05:14 AM

1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Well, after many many many years, I have my first automotive project. Whatever shall I do with it. So many decisions to make, but here is what I'm starting with. Looking forward to learning a lot from all the pro's on here. ;) Hopefully they show up.



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:)

FetchMeAPepsi March 19th, 2014 05:52 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Heres your pics fixed aphaynes! :thumbsup:



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How I did it (I used to write manuals lol)
  • Pull up your flickr pic you want to post.
  • On the right there's a picture of a box with an error off to the right top corner of it. If you put your mouse over it and don't click it says, "share this photo"
  • Click that box. At the bottom of the popup you'll see EMBED or HTML. Choose HTML.
  • Now look at the code that shows up. It looks like this
    Code:

    <a href="https://secure.flickr.com/photos/55926465@N00/13257027305/" title="Untitled by , on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3777/13257027305_f4c847bc02.jpg" width="500" height="281" alt="Untitled"></a>
  • Scroll to the right till you get to the part of the code that says <img src="
  • From that point you highlight it until you get to the end of the link. It ends in .jpg
    In my example pic the part we highlight and copy is this


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  • Copy that link, come here and click the mountain picture with a sun on it, like this,

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    in the posting window.
  • Paste that link and youre good to go!



Great looking truck too. Whats the story on her? Someone painted the engine recently that's for sure! In the pic it looks like you could eat off of it :jaw-dropping:

EDIT: Hey, you figured it out without me! ARRGH! I feel my worthlessness growing!!! I'm ..... melllttinnnggggggg!!!

:beer:

aphaynes March 19th, 2014 06:03 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Don't have her home yet. It originally belonged to my coworkers father in law, and then to him. Looks like they took pretty good care of it. Has the 305 which has been rebuilt, 4 on the floor. They did cover the bed with steel, so I will eventually reverse that. She seems to run good. Tailgate and mirrors are missing. Coworker now has 5 kids so he figured he would never get to getting it how he wanted it. :) They have had fun with it as a family, even using it as prop for some wedding photos. The rear seal was leaking, and he had the new seal, so he is putting that on before I pick it up. Now I have to learn a lot and figure out how I want to finish her.

aphaynes March 19th, 2014 06:05 AM

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Oh, and I know she has Ford hubs, but don't crucify for that. ;)

aphaynes March 19th, 2014 06:07 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
nice fix on the pics! and the tutorial!! Thanks! I cheated and moved them from flickr to photobucket. :D

Vernski March 19th, 2014 08:59 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Nice truck looks like it has straight sheet metal that always helps when it's time to paint. Keep us posted on your progress we all love pictures thanks for posting them...Vernski:thumbsup:

1966shortstep March 19th, 2014 03:30 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Solid looking truck. Will be watching to see where the project takes you. Working on 4-5-6 trucks is fun.
What are your plans?

aphaynes March 19th, 2014 03:51 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1966shortstep (Post 52530)
Solid looking truck. Will be watching to see where the project takes you. Working on 4-5-6 trucks is fun.
What are your plans?

Step 1: Learn all I can from you guys! :)
Step 2: Save up some money
Step 3: still got to figure it out...keep it stock? modernize it a bit (ps, pb)? color scheme? Right now the vision in my head keeps changing as I look at what others have done. :(

All I know now is progress will be slow. ;)
Want her to look and run good, but I plan to keep her on the road, not hidden in a garage.

GMCDAC March 20th, 2014 01:30 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aphaynes (Post 52531)
Step 1: Learn all I can from you guys! :)
Step 2: Save up some money
Step 3: still got to figure it out...keep it stock? modernize it a bit (ps, pb)? color scheme? Right now the vision in my head keeps changing as I look at what others have done. :(

All I know now is progress will be slow. ;)
Want her to look and run good, but I plan to keep her on the road, not hidden in a garage.

Welcome from the Black Hills! Great looking truck. You came to the right place to learn about these GMCs. The most knowledgeable folks on the net are right here and will help you out. I learn stuff every day to use when I add one of these trucks to my GMC family again.

Glad you are keeping it on the road while working on it!

DAC

aphaynes March 20th, 2014 02:02 AM

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Thanks GMCDAC!

Vernski March 20th, 2014 06:50 AM

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Here is a before and after picture. Sorry the before pic is upside down anyone know how to get it right side up? I try-ed but was in strange territory:poke:
Mine is a 65 GMC 1000 fleetside and took about 5 years:runforthehills:

aphaynes March 20th, 2014 02:32 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vernski (Post 52538)
Mine is a 65 GMC 1000 fleetside and took about 5 years:runforthehills:

Very nice! Like the wood accent on the rails. Did you have trouble finding the chrome trim? Seems expensive for what it is from a new reproduction standpoint; unless you can find it used and still in decent shape. Do you have a build thread on here showing how you got from start to finish?

Foley March 20th, 2014 08:42 PM

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Nice truck Vernski. We'd like to see more pictures when ur up to it. About that upside down stuff. I have the same kinds of problems when I'm trying to attach pictures to messages. Yourz worked out fine. I just turned my monitor thing upside down and set it back on the desk and that before picture was good as can be..

Vernski March 20th, 2014 10:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aphaynes (Post 52540)
Very nice! Like the wood accent on the rails. Did you have trouble finding the chrome trim? Seems expensive for what it is from a new reproduction standpoint; unless you can find it used and still in decent shape. Do you have a build thread on here showing how you got from start to finish?

Mar-k makes the side moulding but not the upper cab trim and I just polished
them they had some scratches and came out good, the side moulding was to
far gone & mangled. Sorry no on the build thread but I did take some pics so
ask if I have pics of something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foley (Post 52541)
Nice truck Vernski. We'd like to see more pictures when ur up to it. About that upside down stuff. I have the same kinds of problems when I'm trying to attach pictures to messages. Yourz worked out fine. I just turned my monitor thing upside down and set it back on the desk and that before picture was good as can be..

I do have more pics and will post them as time allow, I posted some pics in the paint and bodywork section on the forum. I did get the picture turned right side up but now that I look at it, it's backward I need to pay attention...Vernski:takethat:

aphaynes March 22nd, 2014 02:00 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
So with F in the VIN is there any set way to determine a 64, 65, 66? It does not have the HF or ZF mentioned on the club page VIN description.



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aphaynes March 22nd, 2014 02:20 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Seems to have always been here in the Huntsville, AL area though.



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gmc1963 March 22nd, 2014 02:22 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
vin decoder at the top of the page

aphaynes March 22nd, 2014 02:29 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
yeah, the club page says 64-66, the one at the top says 65-66, so that's why I asked.

Jeannie March 22nd, 2014 02:42 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Aphaynes,

GMC manufacturing was labeled in series instead of years, unlike most other manufacturers. With the target demographic a hard-working American that had little use for the annual flash and tech, it was marketed as major upgrades to capability were released. The series did not change from 1964 - 1966, leaving the labeling process unchanged. Aside from the Oakland plant the years in question would be labeled identically. This results in the series being called the 4-5-6 series by fans of the bodystyle.

Congratulations on your new truck. I have subscribed to your thread to see your progress :)

-Jeannie

aphaynes March 22nd, 2014 04:11 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeannie (Post 52557)
Aphaynes,

GMC manufacturing was labeled in series instead of years, unlike most other manufacturers. With the target demographic a hard-working American that had little use for the annual flash and tech, it was marketed as major upgrades to capability were released. The series did not change from 1964 - 1966, leaving the labeling process unchanged. Aside from the Oakland plant the years in question would be labeled identically. This results in the series being called the 4-5-6 series by fans of the bodystyle.

Congratulations on your new truck. I have subscribed to your thread to see your progress :)

-Jeannie

Thanks Jeannie!

aphaynes March 22nd, 2014 03:34 PM

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OK, I got the GMC Maintenance Manuals - X-6223, X-6323 & X-6423 yesterday. Are there others that would be good to have on hand during this journey?

FetchMeAPepsi March 22nd, 2014 06:13 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
I cant think of anything else. You alredy have more than me! :lolsmack:

aphaynes March 22nd, 2014 07:19 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FetchMeAPepsi (Post 52563)
I cant think of anything else. You alredy have more than me! :lolsmack:

😀 yes but i dont really know what i'm doing, so i need all the help i can get! :scared:

Vernski March 22nd, 2014 10:07 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aphaynes (Post 52562)
OK, I got the GMC Maintenance Manuals - X-6223, X-6323 & X-6423 yesterday. Are there others that would be good to have on hand during this journey?

A.P. this one is not GMC specific and is for Chevys is called Factory Assembly Manual, but it will tell you how to assemble the truck on the parts that are the same on the GMC, It's not laid out in any particular order with no index so you have to look for what applies and make your own index. Other than that it was helpful when I forgot how something was assembled plus they are not to costly at least the last time I looked at them. It was helpful with things like the wipers and where the bolts go in the sheet metal and lots of other items, It's not a must have item if you take notes on how things are assembled and have a good memory. But if you do things like me I tend to forget where and how stuff goes...Vernski:runforthehills:

aphaynes March 22nd, 2014 10:39 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vernski (Post 52573)
A.P. this one is not GMC specific and is for Chevys is called Factory Assembly Manual, but it will tell you how to assemble the truck on the parts that are the same on the GMC, It's not laid out in any particular order with no index so you have to look for what applies and make your own index.

Thanks. :thumbsup: I was wondering how useful that one would be.

aphaynes March 24th, 2014 05:36 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
It's amazing what you don't see the first one or two times you look at something. When I first looked at this truck, I thought the hood was good. I was glad because I hear they are hard to find. However, taking another look while trying to put a game plan in place I noticed the following...



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:( I assume, being on the corner, this will drive the need for a hood replacement? ...or is there a feasible way to repair it?

FetchMeAPepsi March 24th, 2014 08:43 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
I've seen kids throw them away for less than that, but I've seen guys patch much bigger than that. If it was me I'd try to clean all the rust off then weld up the holes. A flapdisk and a wire wheel (15.00 or so for both) would clean them up pretty good. WDShaffer is the paint and body guy to go to for tips there. Do you know how to weld any?

aphaynes March 24th, 2014 09:01 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FetchMeAPepsi (Post 52587)
I've seen kids throw them away for less than that, but I've seen guys patch much bigger than that. If it was me I'd try to clean all the rust off then weld up the holes. A flapdisk and a wire wheel (15.00 or so for both) would clean them up pretty good. WDShaffer is the paint and body guy to go to for tips there. Do you know how to weld any?

Sadly no, even though my dad is a welder, I never learned from him as a kid...better late than never though right!?! Of course we live 10 hours apart now. I won't see the folks again until May. However, he may have some equipment he can let go of. ;) Got some wire wheels I used to when restoring my grandfather's Shopsmith last fall. May get to use that to rip some wood for the bed...maybe. :D think I saw some drawings for that on here somewhere. :confused:

WDShaffer March 24th, 2014 11:51 PM

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Thanks for the props, Fetch...

Those are the most common type of rusty part: joints where dirt & water collect. Look also at your floorboards where the cab mounts are (front specifically is often bad rusty).

You can fix anything if you are willing to, or if you have no option. It all depends upon what you want to gain from the project. My '61 is a basket case I intend to have fun with -after 10 years of waiting, the stars are aligning again :woo:

If you can't get to the back side of the rust, you gotta remove material until it is solid metal. A doner bow-tie hood could give the patch panels necessary too.

aphaynes March 25th, 2014 12:09 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WDShaffer (Post 52590)
Thanks for the props, Fetch...
A doner bow-tie hood could give the patch panels necessary too.

Thanks. There is an old 64 Chevy near here that has sat on Craigslist for sometime. Might try to see if he can part with the hood for that use. Thanks. Of course the hood may not be in as good as shape as the teeny tiny picture makes it appear in the CL ad. :)

aphaynes March 26th, 2014 12:15 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeannie (Post 52557)
Aphaynes,

GMC manufacturing was labeled in series instead of years, unlike most other manufacturers. With the target demographic a hard-working American that had little use for the annual flash and tech, it was marketed as major upgrades to capability were released. The series did not change from 1964 - 1966, leaving the labeling process unchanged. Aside from the Oakland plant the years in question would be labeled identically. This results in the series being called the 4-5-6 series by fans of the bodystyle.

Congratulations on your new truck. I have subscribed to your thread to see your progress :)

-Jeannie

Found this interesting table in the LMC catalog today. If it is correct then I guess I have an early 1965 instead of 1964 based on the model and vehicle portion of my VIN, "F26882". :oops:

Can anyone support LMC's statement?



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aphaynes March 27th, 2014 06:22 PM

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Haven't got my truck home yet...hopefully this weekend. :)

In the meantime just doing a lot of reading and studying. As a rookie in the world of auto body work, I know I have a lot to learn for any aspect of this project I take on myself. I just found this resource. Seems to be pretty informative in terms of metal work and paint, but then...what do i know ;)



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Maybe some folks here have used it or seen it and can vouch for it. Maybe another rookie like me will find it useful.

Vernski March 27th, 2014 08:14 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Hi AP that looks like a good resource for body work it has allot information and will be very helpful. I like that he said his way was not the only approach to body work, as with any information some are more comprehensive in different areas. I think it is good honest info overall and a good choice....Vernski:thumbsup:

aphaynes March 27th, 2014 08:19 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vernski (Post 52645)
Hi AP that looks like a good resource for body work it has allot information and will be very helpful. I like that he said his way was not the only approach to body work, as with any information some are more comprehensive in different areas. I think it is good honest info overall and a good choice....Vernski:thumbsup:

Vernski - thanks for taking a peek at it and confirming my hunch! :tiphat:

FetchMeAPepsi March 27th, 2014 08:57 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aphaynes (Post 52605)
Found this interesting table in the LMC catalog today. If it is correct then I guess I have an early 1965 instead of 1964 based on the model and vehicle portion of my VIN, "F26882". :oops:

Can anyone support LMC's statement?



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Where'd you find it? I messed around the site a little but didnt see it.

aphaynes March 27th, 2014 09:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FetchMeAPepsi (Post 52647)
Where'd you find it? I messed around the site a little but didnt see it.

Page 8 of their online PDF catalog


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this page has links to all of their PDF catalogs


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aphaynes March 29th, 2014 02:45 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Finally got her home! :turtleride: She survived our 40 mile ride! :runhappy:

May have hosed up the brakes though. Stopped for gas, put on the emergency brake and never took it back off (30 miles or so). :oops: Not used to messing with a big 'ol emergency brake lever. :oops:

She is leaking some oil after she gets warmed up good. :aarrgh:
Dark now, so that will be an investigation for tomorrow if the rain holds off.

Needs a carb rebuild...and I haven't looked at a carb in 25 or so years. :ohmygosh:
Fetch - Guess I'll be revisiting your build thread!! ;)

Brake lights are iffy...sometimes one comes on sometimes two. Wiring check in order as well.

Let the fun begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :woo::biggringmc::woo:

Vernski March 29th, 2014 10:31 AM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Alex hereis a link from the GMC Guy on wiring most of these old trucks just have bad ground from corrosion and other malady's check it out if you haven't already found it...Vernski:runforthehills:



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Here is a link to the decals for the gauges at Brothers Trucks



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aphaynes March 29th, 2014 04:42 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 1000 Fleetside
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vernski (Post 52678)
Alex hereis a link from the GMC Guy on wiring most of these old trucks just have bad ground from corrosion and other malady's check it out if you haven't already found it...Vernski:runforthehills:



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Here is a link to the decals for the gauges at Brothers Trucks



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Awesome! Thanks Vernski!! I had not found that yet. :woo:
Raining here so might as well study up some more!

aphaynes March 30th, 2014 06:46 PM

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Tootling..is that a word...around the junkyard Friday, I was wondering if anyone had attempted to use a 1990 Chevy Van G20 Fuel tank in the rear of theses GMC's?

Problem: Not sure of the dimensions of the GMC frame. Have seen a drawing for the Chevy and could assume they should be the same but I hate to assume.

Van tank dimensions are 31 x 22 x 12.38 in. according to an ad for one...forgot to carry a tape measure with me. :oops: ...but then that is not what I went there to look for. ;)

tank at the junkyard...


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