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jmfurgason May 29th, 2020 10:16 PM

SM420 and 44Axel
 
What gear oil for both? I have 80w90 Valvoline not syn ,:pullinghairout:am i in the ball park??

LEWISMATKIN May 30th, 2020 02:01 PM

Re: SM420 and 44Axel
 
Yes you are. I personally use straight sae140, but that can be hard to find.

jmfurgason May 30th, 2020 02:13 PM

Re: SM420 and 44Axel
 
Thanks Lewis ! why does the container say for topping off only and not for synchromesh ? appreciate your answer, there is a lot of info out there ,not all correct. Louie thanks you as well, be well be safe. jmf

tbucketnut May 30th, 2020 02:29 PM

Re: SM420 and 44Axel
 
I run 90 weight mineral oil in my SM420, in my 1953, it has the early style synchros. The 64 GMC I use multipurpose gear lube, same as you can run in your rear end too, unless you have a powr-Loc rear end (posi)

jmfurgason May 30th, 2020 03:38 PM

Re: SM420 and 44Axel
 
Thanks Steve, dont think my 63 has posi so should be fine with Valvoline 80w90 in tranny & diff. jf

LEWISMATKIN May 30th, 2020 05:53 PM

Re: SM420 and 44Axel
 
I can tell both of you about a bad experience with power-lock spicer carriers. I built one for another truck i owned and was using genuine gm posi-trac fluid. I ran the axle over 1.5 years and didn't change the fluid. One day, on my way to a funeral home, i made a sharp, rh turn. I heard a loud "bang" and lost all motion with the truck. I got it back to dad's shop, removed the inspection plate, and found that the slip agent in the lube had failed. I had broken the head of the pinion gear off the pinoin shaft, and cracked the case of the rear axle, which dad had to weld up. I started to research why the lube failed, and discovered gm recommended a 12-month replacement for the lube if the posi-trac fluid was used. As i think about it now, i laugh at my self, although it wasn't funny at the time.

jmfurgason May 30th, 2020 10:10 PM

Re: SM420 and 44Axel
 
Tough story Lewis, thanks for sharing history ,what a nightmare. jf

tbucketnut May 31st, 2020 12:04 AM

Re: SM420 and 44Axel
 
So free lube but the rear end carnage was on you then.

jmfurgason May 31st, 2020 02:26 AM

Re: SM420 and 44Axel
 
Does the 1963 Dana 44 have a drain plug? and is an additive needed? 2WD 1000 Thanks to all JF

LEWISMATKIN May 31st, 2020 05:54 AM

Re: SM420 and 44Axel
 
Yes tbucketnut, it is.


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