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Foley September 30th, 2013 06:00 AM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
Regarding the engine paint there Fetch, some of the folks here on the forum have advised me to go for the VHT or Dulicolor (same company now) #1605, Ford engine Red in order to get the best possible color match. I found a spray can at an old, old NAPA store $4.99 with 1/2 inch of dust on the lid. I had to shake it up for 3 days it'd been sitting so long, then squirted the oil pan, and find it has more reddish and less orangish. Looks very good I think. Pix to follow some day when I do one of them build journals.

BarryGMC September 30th, 2013 06:07 AM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
OK Pepsi I am going to give you a bad time. You have not really had it bad until you have put a sm465 np205 set up in with no jack. 200 lbs of Michigan cast iron on your chest. Try this on the cold. About 15 degrees. Keep it up its good to see you learn. Best wishes. Barry

FetchMeAPepsi September 30th, 2013 03:06 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
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Originally Posted by Foley (Post 50591)
Regarding the engine paint there Fetch, some of the folks here on the forum have advised me to go for the VHT or Dulicolor (same company now) #1605, Ford engine Red in order to get the best possible color match. I found a spray can at an old, old NAPA store $4.99 with 1/2 inch of dust on the lid. I had to shake it up for 3 days it'd been sitting so long, then squirted the oil pan, and find it has more reddish and less orangish. Looks very good I think. Pix to follow some day when I do one of them build journals.

I ordered six cans of Ford Red for the engine but the transmission and transfer case was a more rusty color than the motor (maybe just in the 4x4?). I couldn't find any "look alike" colors listed in the archives so I just ran my own testing facility :lolflag:
I failed, but it's the closest I could find. You're right though. I probably should have just used the Ford Red.

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Originally Posted by BarryGMC (Post 50592)
OK Pepsi I am going to give you a bad time. You have not really had it bad until you have put a sm465 np205 set up in with no jack. 200 lbs of Michigan cast iron on your chest. Try this on the cold. About 15 degrees. Keep it up its good to see you learn. Best wishes. Barry

I can't even imagine :D I would be one of those guys you see on the news "Weenie-armed idiot crushed to death under vehicle while working on it. Pictures at 10!" :lolsmack: I'm thankful that this one isn't too crazy heavy and even more, I rebuilt it with my own two hands (and a lot of help from this club). It sure feels different when you've put it together yourself, doesn't it? :yeeuh::yeeuh::yeeuh:


Thanks for reading my train wreck guys. And all you lurkers too :beer:

FetchMeAPepsi September 30th, 2013 09:43 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
My littlest blonde has a birthday coming up in two days so I'm trying to get Cecilia out of the garage in time to take her birthday pics. And for winter too. I don't move much when it gets cold.

This afternoon I did a couple of piddly things. I wire wheeled and ospho'd the drive shaft that I had forgotten about.



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It'll get a coat of herculiner on the shaft. I dont know about the pins etc. Im kinda afraid that would mess them up so I'll probably leave them as they are.

I threw away the old pins for the shifter and set aside my new pins.



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I discovered that I had herculiner'ed my shifter bracket here to a piece of cardboard so I got a razorblade and cut it off. That was fun. Then I had to re-herculine the balder spots.



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I did some touchup and wiped up the excess on the hump. I still need to get a new rubber liner.



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then I sprayed another coat of rustoleum bedliner on the shaft. The rustoleum liner is thin and smooth, better for interior places you'll be touching. The herculiner is like those playgrounds that have chopped up rubber underfoot. Thick and grabby. Not what I want on the shaft of the 4x4 shifter. I stuck it in a hole in the frame to dry :lolflag:



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Then I squirted some grease in my new throwout bearing.



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And finally I put another coat of blind-your-face orange on the transmission and recoated these two stepside braces. They had spray-on stuff on them first but this stuff is much tougher and they live under the truck so they get coated.



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That was it today. Tonight or tomorrow I'll try to mount the tranny and get her moving again :thumbsup:

Andice October 1st, 2013 02:39 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
Excellent work, Fetch. Great detail and all done with a limited number of tools. Good for you!

FetchMeAPepsi October 2nd, 2013 02:18 AM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
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Originally Posted by Andice (Post 50602)
Excellent work, Fetch. Great detail and all done with a limited number of tools. Good for you!

Thanks Andice! Your new avatar is cool!

1960's technology really makes these trucks easy for the newbie to work on with common household stuff. You could almost just buy one of those house-toolkit/toolboxes that come preloaded and do alot of the stuff you have to do to keep them going. It's great :thumbsup:



I am having trouble with the transmission insertion though. I can't seem to get it to go in the last inch to inch and a half. I'm thinking it's an alignment thing. I'll be working on it tomorrow but if I can't get it then I'll have to wait till Saturday. :morecoffee:

BarryGMC October 2nd, 2013 03:18 AM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
Did that kit have an alignment tool? If it did not loosen up the pressure plate until the disk is just snug in there. You need to be able to move the disk when you put the trans in. Then you should be able to get the shaft into the bearing.

Andice October 2nd, 2013 03:51 AM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
Thanks Fetch. It took four years to get that avatar. Could your new throwout bearing be the culprit? It looked a little longe than the original.

FetchMeAPepsi October 2nd, 2013 08:35 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
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Originally Posted by BarryGMC (Post 50607)
Did that kit have an alignment tool? If it did not loosen up the pressure plate until the disk is just snug in there. You need to be able to move the disk when you put the trans in. Then you should be able to get the shaft into the bearing.

It was supposed to include one, but it didn't. I think I've found the problem though....

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Originally Posted by Andice (Post 50608)
Thanks Fetch. It took four years to get that avatar. Could your new throwout bearing be the culprit? It looked a little longe than the original.


It's longer than the original but it does seem to fit in the fork. I had to pry the fork back to get it in but once in there it seems to slide around OK. I'm not sure exactly how it should be.





Well guys, my insertion problem looks to be the loose nut behind the hammer (thats me :poke:). When I tried to get the transmission apart and back together I banged on the input shaft to get things moving in one way or another. It didnt seem to do anything to it so I thought it was just tough steel.

It isnt as tough as a hammer though. I guess i swelled it up on the end and the pilot bearing doesn't fit on it anymore. I'm not sure what to do now. I think I'll try the guy that resurfaced my flywheel and see if he can scour the tip back down to pilot bearing size. Its that or find a donor transmission I think.

BarryGMC October 3rd, 2013 02:23 AM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
I am sure some one will howl about this advice. Take a flat file and remove the high spots on the end until it fits. Dead blow hammers and brass bars are your friend. Remember that. Barry


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