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5Tractorguy December 28th, 2019 03:55 PM

Upgrading to HEI on the 5000
 
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Well folks, it's come time to upgrade the '61 to HEI. Ever since I bought this truck I've had issues with power and such. I've narrowed it down to the distributor being the main problem, mechanical advance just isn't working properly.

My question is... will this distributor from Rock Auto work? Skylark 3.8L Distributor (Aside from having to make the bushing). I'd rather buy one complete than piece one together. I assume I'll have to chance the drive gear also?

-Jake

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bigblockv6 December 28th, 2019 05:10 PM

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This distributor appears to be the even fire type which will work as long as you do the modifications as installing the custom machined sleeve and use the gear from the original GMC V6 distributor.

tbucketnut December 28th, 2019 07:15 PM

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Jake, like your barn or shop, looks absolutely killer. What is the tower in the back used for? Does it house a gantry?

5Tractorguy December 28th, 2019 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bigblockv6 (Post 71818)
This distributor appears to be the even fire type which will work as long as you do the modifications as installing the custom machined sleeve and use the gear from the original GMC V6 distributor.

Thanks. I'm going to go ahead and order it. Plan is to get everything rounded up and ready over the winter so when spring comes I can do the conversion.


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Originally Posted by tbucketnut (Post 71819)
Jake, like your barn or shop, looks absolutely killer. What is the tower in the back used for? Does it house a gantry?

Boy I wish it was mine! I ride horses weekly a town over and their barn makes perfect scenery for truck photos... Someday I hope to have a building that nice to work out of.


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1972RedNeck January 3rd, 2020 01:34 AM

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Are you going to build the bushing yourself or have it made? If you are having someone build it and you would get a discount for more than one, I will send you the money for 2...

5Tractorguy January 3rd, 2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck (Post 71834)
Are you going to build the bushing yourself or have it made? If you are having someone build it and you would get a discount for more than one, I will send you the money for 2...

I'm going to build the bushing myself. If I go to a machine shop it'll probably cost the same as buying one from Rod Johnson (WE7X on here...). He has them in stock and ready if you need them sooner than later.

5Tractorguy May 24th, 2020 12:08 AM

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Update: Did the HEI conversion recently to the 351. Have a couple question for guys that have made the swap...

1) Where did you pull your vacuum from? I ran mine to the back of the original WW carburetor. (Same spot the vac was on the 305 in my pickup).

2) What degree did you set your base timing at (vacuum line unplugged)

3) When you hold a timing light on the engine, does the mark steadily increase, or does it jump up suddenly at around 1000RPM's?

Truck definitely starts faster! Still having power issues, gets a little better as I increase the base timing (now at 10deg). Not knocking yet, but I don't want to get much higher than that. Have a feeling vacuum advance plays a part in what's going on...

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James May 24th, 2020 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 5Tractorguy (Post 72573)
1) Where did you pull your vacuum from? I ran mine to the back of the original WW carburetor. (Same spot the vac was on the 305 in my pickup).

The distributor get manifold vacuum. I got mine from the back of the manifold for my power brake conversion. Removed the plug and install a fitting.

5Tractorguy May 24th, 2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 72577)
The distributor get manifold vacuum. I got mine from the back of the manifold for my power brake conversion. Removed the plug and install a fitting.

The hydro-vac pulls from that port on mine. Looks like I'll T the fittings on the manifold and run one to the distributor. I have a feeling it isn't getting sufficient vac through the carb.

James May 29th, 2020 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 72577)
The distributor get manifold vacuum. I got mine from the back of the manifold for my power brake conversion. Removed the plug and install a fitting.

I am in error. The distributor should get ported vacuum. The HEI should plug into the same place as the original distributor.

Today I had pulled the hose off of the carburetor and only had vacuum when the throttle open.

Sorry for the misinformation.

Today I also check my engine timing, is set to 5° BUDC.


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