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zoulas July 14th, 2019 03:43 PM

1965 Origiinal wheel/tire change
 
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I have a 1965 GMC 2500 Panel with original wheel's. The tires are Michelin XCA with tubes. They are worn and cracking. I have a new set of tires. Where can I find a place to have them changed? I asked around and no one really has the know how to work on tires with tubes any more. I think they are split rim? Not sure. Any feedback? Is this something I can realistically tackle myself?

BillT July 14th, 2019 06:27 PM

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I believe they are Splits. I would leave them to the professionals especially when not being familiar with them. Try going to a Truck or Farm Tractor tire service dealer for help.

jagarra July 14th, 2019 06:46 PM

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I have the same rims on my truck. They are 3 pieces rims rather than the conventional split rim where there is a break on the outside piece. I change them myself but I have a manual tire changer. Had to rig up a plate, then blocks of wood to apply pressure on the edge.
I order to get to the locking ring which is located below the outer edge of the rim, the otter edge has to be pushed down past the locking ring, then the ring comes off with a large screwdriver or tire bar. then the whole tire and tube can be removed as a unit.
You may have a difficult time finding someone to do this, don't know where you are located to give you any assistance.
Once the tire is deflated getting the rim edge down is the trick, you would have to rig something up to push the rim down then it's pretty easy.

Saw that you were in NY, so helping out won't work. Maybe 2 big C clamps or bringing a weight down on the rim with equal length blocks between the weight source and rims

Ed Snyder July 15th, 2019 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by zoulas (Post 71298)
I have a 1965 GMC 2500 Panel with original wheel's. The tires are Michelin XCA with tubes. They are worn and cracking. I have a new set of tires. Where can I find a place to have them changed? I asked around and no one really has the know how to work on tires with tubes any more. I think they are split rim? Not sure. Any feedback? Is this something I can realistically tackle myself?

I would not try tackling myself that if I were you. Be advised that people have been killed while reinflating a tire for which the locking ring was not correctly reinstalled. Unless you're dead set on maintaining 100% originality for your panel, my advice is to buy different wheels.

By the way, my "one ton Suburban" was originally a panel like yours. Looks like the same color too.

James July 15th, 2019 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BillT (Post 71299)
I believe they are Splits. I would leave them to the professionals especially when not being familiar with them. Try going to a Truck or Farm Tractor tire service dealer for help.

They should also have a tire inflation cage to contain the wheel should it decide to come apart during inflation.

zoulas July 15th, 2019 01:03 PM

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Thanks for the feedback. I am definitely not changing the rims. These original wheels look real nice when restored. The truck is 95% original and original owner (my father). The 5% that is not is the air cleaner and the carburetor. Definitely not tackling myself either. Thanks again.

thenonoman May 21st, 2020 07:33 PM

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Some states forbid tire shops from working on split rim wheels, but otherwise any shop that works on tires for big rigs should be able to hook you up. If you are determined to stay stock, you should obtain some bias tires. It is possible to mount radials on split rims, but it makes them wear funny and can lead to catastrophic failure.
https://www.sema.org/files/attachmen...el-Fitment.pdf

Robert B. May 21st, 2020 08:59 PM

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Had some on my ‘63, 3/4t, 4 wheel dr. Truthfully probably better to get a different wheel...in the long run. Some look-alike 8 lugs out there through LMC or “Wheel Vintiques”.


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zoulas August 10th, 2020 08:14 PM

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Hello, I came across this video, is this a close approximation of how these come apart? So there is the rim, the locking ring, and the outer ring. Are those are the three pieces Jagarra was referring to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II2gTlAVTPc

ilvracn August 11th, 2020 03:35 PM

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are the tires 16 or 16.5?
they haven't made 16.5 tires in 30 years, you can still find them but they are junk, too old. if they are 16.5, i would recommend getting 16 inch wheels and tires

zoulas August 11th, 2020 07:46 PM

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The tires are Michelin XCA 7.5 R17

LEWISMATKIN August 12th, 2020 02:35 AM

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16.5 tires are still being offered for trailers. The employer i now work for offers a 12.00-16.5 bias ply tire.

jagarra August 12th, 2020 04:50 AM

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Yes, that is the 3 pieces rims that I also have on my pick up. My method works easier using the tire changer with the plate and blocks. I inflate on the changer with the plate on top and a bar kitty corner to it, just in case something decides to fly. Having changed regular split rims and the 3 piece units when I was in High School working at a service station, the 3 pieces are a better and much safer than the old two piece split to inflate.

Here is a source for 16.5 tires https://www.stausaonline.com/tires/sta-super-transport/

Ed Snyder August 17th, 2020 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LEWISMATKIN (Post 72937)
16.5 tires are still being offered for trailers. The employer i now work for offers a 12.00-16.5 bias ply tire.

My one ton Suburban has had 16.5 inch wheels and tires on it since the late '60s. When my Dad turned it over to me in 2014 for the drive from Wichita to Oregon, it needed two new tires for the trip. I had no problem at the time finding new B.F. Goodrich 12.50 x 33 x 16.5 radial tires at a shop in Wichita.

ilvracn August 17th, 2020 03:42 PM

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i stand corrected. about 7 or 8 years ago a buddy of mine bought 4 new 16.5 tires from an old tire store, for the back of an old motorhome. he didnt make it 50 miles and 2 of them blew out. we tried to find 16.5 to replace, no luck. ended up finding 16 inch wheels and 4 new 16 inch tires. my normal tire warehouse, does not list any 16.5 tires, summit racing offers mud and off road tires. tire rack does offer a 16.5 tire. i checked bfg website, it says to call on 16.5 tires.
i would still recomend getting rid of the split rims and going to 16" tires, just to make future repairs. it will be alot simpler to find someone to fix a 16" inch tire than a split rim. weekend travel, have to get tire at walmart on sunday before. i'm sure they will not work on split rims. also finding a shop with cage will not be as easy as it used to be. most shops will turn down the job instead of buying a cage for a young kid to fix the tire with no expierance with split rims.


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