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sc1337 July 17th, 2013 04:53 AM

196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
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Hi, I'm a bit new to this forum and to owning a vintage GMC.
I found my beauty at a private impound lot just a few miles away. It was love at first sight in all its rusty beauty lol. I don't know much about american vehicles I've only worked on european cars so I don't know of any good places to buy parts or places to find information. So if anyone could help me with that I'd appreciate it!

Funky61 July 17th, 2013 06:37 AM

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Welcome SC from SoCalif. What's the history of the truck and how about some photos of the V6 and the interior dash as well. Keep it stock or this maybe...
Here is a photo from another forum of a B-model Hot Rodded up. Either way, cool truck.

sc1337 July 17th, 2013 07:05 AM

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Welcome SC from SoCalif. What's the history of the truck and how about some photos of the V6 and the interior dash as well. Keep it stock or this maybe...
Here is a photo from another forum of a B-model Hot Rodded up. Either way, cool truck.

South Carolina actually, I don't know the history sadly other than it has a Fontaine flatbed. I plan on keep it pretty much stock I think it looks bad-a now. It does have some rust issues in the floor pan and doors but thats expected. The guy I bought it from owns a towing service and he towed it to me on his semi for free, thought that was pretty cool, and he just dropped it off today so I get some more pics tomorrow and try to get her started!

P.S. thats a awesome truck

FetchMeAPepsi July 17th, 2013 03:17 PM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Cool truck! More pix! :champagne:
Have you rescued one of these trucks before? Theres a few guys here with big trucks that really dig the factory look. i bet they will offer some good tips as you go along.

If you dont have a maintenance manual you can find one on evilbay. The one manual covers 1000-5000 models.

:goodluck:

Clyde July 17th, 2013 03:28 PM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
I am located in Abbeville,SC, my son lives in Greer and we are usually up there several times a month. Good luck, if I can be of any help just ask.
Clyde

sc1337 July 17th, 2013 07:55 PM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
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Originally Posted by FetchMeAPepsi (Post 49364)
Cool truck! More pix! :champagne:
Have you rescued one of these trucks before? Theres a few guys here with big trucks that really dig the factory look. i bet they will offer some good tips as you go along.

If you dont have a maintenance manual you can find one on evilbay. The one manual covers 1000-5000 models.

:goodluck:

That's a good idea thanks! Nope this is my first Truck actually, I wanted something big and unique.

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Originally Posted by Clyde (Post 49366)
I am located in Abbeville,SC, my son lives in Greer and we are usually up there several times a month. Good luck, if I can be of any help just ask.
Clyde

Will do thanks!


Ok here are some pics...

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118,783 miles, I want to change out the cluster, because I want a tach and voltmeter.

6066gmcguy July 18th, 2013 05:58 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Its a 1964-66 truck, cab style narrowed that down. Still downloading your pics...

Too many of these truck have been cut down to one ton chassis, or lowered, not many kept stock, which is too bad as at some point in the future thats he way people will think they come from the factory, I say keep it stock so that some history is saved as it should be.

They can be fun trucks, but you need to run with the bigger truck owners a little more, so also beside this fine group, check out the American Truck Historical Society, you can find a link to they forum on my site, the 6066 GMC Guy.

Also see my site for the double cluster setup GMC had in a lot of the bigger trucks, you can find them in other large trucks and mix & match the parts to bould what you want, I have one I built onthe site.

Whats the vin number?

6066gmcguy July 18th, 2013 06:04 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Looking at the photos, I see your door are rusted, but the good news is, a door from a pickup will work, you just need to cut the lower front corner off, there is even a line on the door to show you were to cut.

sc1337 July 18th, 2013 06:35 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
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Looking at the photos, I see your door are rusted, but the good news is, a door from a pickup will work, you just need to cut the lower front corner off, there is even a line on the door to show you were to cut.

Oh cool thanks I was wondering about that. The Vin is BVH4012 F1010G
I plan on just cleaning her up with parts that could have came on it, and after
I get the 305c cleaned up I wanna get some plaid covers lol

6066gmcguy July 18th, 2013 02:16 PM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Your Vin tells us this:

B = B-Model
V = Vacuum-Hydraulic Brakes
H = Heavy Duty
40 = series 4000
12 = wheelbase, 187 inches
F = series 1964-66
1010 = serial number, 10 unit built that year
G = DOT GVW Rating.

The vin number should made this a 1964 or 1965.

sc1337 July 19th, 2013 04:22 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
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Your Vin tells us this:

B = B-Model
V = Vacuum-Hydraulic Brakes
H = Heavy Duty
40 = series 4000
12 = wheelbase, 187 inches
F = series 1964-66
1010 = serial number, 10 unit built that year
G = DOT GVW Rating.

The vin number should made this a 1964 or 1965.

Wow thanks! so it could be the 10th B model with the new window style?

6066gmcguy July 21st, 2013 02:30 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Yes it could. Nice find eh.

sc1337 July 24th, 2013 07:18 PM

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FetchMeAPepsi July 26th, 2013 01:29 AM

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Let there be light! I see an extension cord in the corner. Is she hooked up to 110? :D

sc1337 July 26th, 2013 02:54 AM

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Let there be light! I see an extension cord in the corner. Is she hooked up to 110? :D

Haha nope just battery power. Amazingly the lights, starter, gauges all work except for a few marker lights.

FetchMeAPepsi July 26th, 2013 03:16 AM

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Awesome! That's more money saved. I'm really diggin that beefy look. {AIRHORNNNNN!} Outta my way, econo-boxes!!:yeeuh::yeeuh:

6066gmcguy July 26th, 2013 03:37 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Nice goin eh.

6066gmcguy July 26th, 2013 03:42 AM

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B-Model & LCF art work.

sc1337 July 26th, 2013 04:20 AM

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Awesome! That's more money saved. I'm really diggin that beefy look. {AIRHORNNNNN!} Outta my way, econo-boxes!!:yeeuh::yeeuh:

thx man. It looks like a bulldog when I pull up lol and yea I need an airhorn haha

sc1337 July 26th, 2013 04:22 AM

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Nice goin eh.

thanks! do you know if the master cylinder is exchangeable with lower models? I put fluid in the reservoir and it just leaks through the firewall when the brake or clutch is depressed.

6066gmcguy July 27th, 2013 07:14 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
No, you need one for the bigger truck as there is a 3rd line the runs down to the brake boster.

sc1337 July 27th, 2013 07:59 AM

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No, you need one for the bigger truck as there is a 3rd line the runs down to the brake boster.

oh alright, thanks. This rebuild lot says it fits, any thoughts?



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6066gmcguy July 28th, 2013 08:23 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
I can't say I have not had one apart for either size of truck.

sc1337 August 6th, 2013 08:56 PM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Well I removed the master cylinder and its severely rusted/pitted so I've been looking for a replacement and the only one i could find with the aux port to the brake booster was a Bendix 11201 Master Cylinder. Still have to double check the bore sizes but it looks like the best choice for the bigger trucks.

sc1337 August 14th, 2013 06:55 PM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Just bought a ''big truck'' cluster. Does anyone know how to hook up the vacuum reserve gauge? I'm assuming it goes to the vacuum tank? Also where to find a tach assembly I haven't been able to find one.


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FetchMeAPepsi August 14th, 2013 09:13 PM

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Just bought a ''big truck'' cluster. Does anyone know how to hook up the vacuum reserve gauge? I'm assuming it goes to the vacuum tank? Also where to find a tach assembly I haven't been able to find one.




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The tachs come up on Ebay every now and then. Sometimes they're stupid high but just as often someone will price them about 50-75.00 shipped

sc1337 August 14th, 2013 10:05 PM

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The tachs come up on Ebay every now and then. Sometimes they're stupid high but just as often someone will price them about 50-75.00 shipped

I think I worded that poorly. I have the Tach gauge, but I don't have the tach cable or the camshaft take-off that's what i'm looking for. Or was that what you meant?

bigblockv6 August 15th, 2013 05:16 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
The vacuum gauge on the big truck cluster is for the Hydrovac brake booster so in your case if it's going to be used in a light duty truck in won't work for that purpose. You can just hook it up to manifold vacuum as a mileage minder type gauge. The tach drive parts are definitely something you're going to have to search for, I've had a few of these in the past but have sold them off to other members but hopefully someone on this site has the stuff. There is a fitting that screws to the back of the cam then attaches to the tach drive so make sure that's included. As for whoever mentioned a tach for $50-$70 you're way off unless it's just a standard Sun RC-50 which resembles the GMC/Sun RC-5A. The RC-5A has the GMC style block numerals you won't find one of these for less than $300 and most won't include the transmitter box. I've seen some real outrageous prices on these tachs recently on ebay ranging from $450-$600.

Funky61 August 15th, 2013 05:44 AM

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Here's a photo of what you're going need. Maybe someone parting out a big truck will have it.

sc1337 August 15th, 2013 06:06 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
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The vacuum gauge on the big truck cluster is for the Hydrovac brake booster so in your case if it's going to be used in a light duty truck in won't work for that purpose. You can just hook it up to manifold vacuum as a mileage minder type gauge. The tach drive parts are definitely something you're going to have to search for, I've had a few of these in the past but have sold them off to other members but hopefully someone on this site has the stuff. There is a fitting that screws to the back of the cam then attaches to the tach drive so make sure that's included. As for whoever mentioned a tach for $50-$70 you're way off unless it's just a standard Sun RC-50 which resembles the GMC/Sun RC-5A. The RC-5A has the GMC style block numerals you won't find one of these for less than $300 and most won't include the transmitter box. I've seen some real outrageous prices on these tachs recently on ebay ranging from $450-$600.

well I have a 4000 with the hydrovac so do you know where/how its setup? I got the whole cluster for $35 so not bad In my book.

bigblockv6 August 15th, 2013 06:21 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
A friend of mine has a 65 4000 series that he's scrapped, I'll find out what's left of it. I do remember the hydrovac underneath the driver's side of the cab somewhat sticking outside the back. Last I saw everything including the vacuum gauge was hooked up, I will try to find out more in the next several days, problem the truck is up about 200 miles away from me up in the gold country in California.

sc1337 August 15th, 2013 06:34 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
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A friend of mine has a 65 4000 series that he's scrapped, I'll find out what's left of it. I do remember the hydrovac underneath the driver's side of the cab somewhat sticking outside the back. Last I saw everything including the vacuum gauge was hooked up, I will try to find out more in the next several days, problem the truck is up about 200 miles away from me up in the gold country in California.

awesome! that would be great if you have time check to with him, I'd really
appreciate it.

sc1337 August 22nd, 2013 05:37 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Just went through the entire electrical harness and took apart every connector and filed them to new condition, perfect continuity. Also bought a chrome powermaster alternator so she's about to be operational!

sc1337 September 11th, 2013 12:24 AM

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FetchMeAPepsi September 11th, 2013 02:48 AM

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sc1337 September 12th, 2013 02:21 AM

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Fixed it for ya. You only put the youtube video number in instead of the whole link


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Oh, thanks!

sc1337 September 25th, 2013 01:46 AM

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Well I got her to drive around back with no hydraulics...

sc1337 February 28th, 2014 05:04 PM

Re: 1964 GMC 4000 B-model
 
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Got some cleaning done.

FetchMeAPepsi April 11th, 2014 12:52 AM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
Time for some more pics!
Do you notice it running different after the cleanup?

sc1337 May 5th, 2014 07:04 PM

Re: 196? GMC 4000 B-model
 
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Time for some more pics!
Do you notice it running different after the cleanup?

I know I need to get on that. I haven't had it started since last year, but I'm sure it couldn't have hurt lol


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