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FetchMeAPepsi September 17th, 2014 10:22 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
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Originally Posted by BarryGMC (Post 54749)
OK. Pep. Since you have the hard to find parts for power steering let's talk about the easy part. You really only need a few things. Most obvious is a Saginaw 4x4 steering box from a 68-91 4x4 straight axle truck . Second you need the arm. Most of the time its still on the box. Third you need the drag link. Fourth you need the section of steering shaft that goes from the column to the box. Next you need 4 spacers 3/4 inch thick. Or An adapter from captain Fab. Finally you need to make a pressure hose made up depending on what pump and year box you have. The hardest part is the axle arm mod. But a later model international arm only needs a bit of reamer work. Imo this is the best thing you can do to your rig. I will get some pics for you of the bits. Barry

Thanks GMC advisor Barry! I dunno if I'm ready for it yet. I still have the motor problem to fix, remember? I think I'm going to have to just suck it up and get some "get me by" tires because Cecilia's quarter sized hole gave up today and popped on me. She's a lame duck now and I can't stand it. I'll post pics in a few. Please do post those pics of the parts and we'll take a run at it after the motor problem is fixed.


Funny story, now when I talk about your advise to The Blonde I say, "My GMC advisor said..." :lolsmack:

FetchMeAPepsi September 25th, 2014 01:50 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
Pulled the trigger on get-me-by tires. Like I mentioned I came out the other day to this




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She's flat as a flitter, but the pic doesn't really show the bend well. Anyway, I replaced the tires with these $80.00 tires.



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They're Hankook Optimo H724 All-Season Tires - 225/75R15 102S. They have a mild piecrust on the edge, but nothing I'm terribly pleased with. I'll have to find some 16 inch wheels to open up my world to better possibilities. Guess I'll add that to the shopping list as I go forward.


To get the wheels ready I needed to pull off the old bias ply tires. The local shop wants $10 each to remove the tire so I think marijuana must have been legalized here and I just didn't know it. They're obviously high.



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Youtube says I can pop the bead by running over them with a car but that failed miserably. They just smooshed down then popped back up. Never busted the bead.

Next I'll try putting a jack on them and putting them under Cecilia. I'll let ya know how that goes...

GMCNUT September 25th, 2014 02:31 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
just bought a full set of 235 70 R15 white walls (correct for these 60's trucks) mounted and balanced w/ tax and out the door for $376.50 - will post a pic later. Couldn't believe the price - they are an off-brand of course, but they are a new tire being made from an old original mold some company bought that was used back in the 60's to cast these tires originally....can send anybody the name etc to see if you can get these where you live too

FetchMeAPepsi September 26th, 2014 01:38 AM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
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Originally Posted by GMCNUT (Post 54837)
just bought a full set of 235 70 R15 white walls (correct for these 60's trucks) mounted and balanced w/ tax and out the door for $376.50 - will post a pic later. Couldn't believe the price - they are an off-brand of course, but they are a new tire being made from an old original mold some company bought that was used back in the 60's to cast these tires originally....can send anybody the name etc to see if you can get these where you live too

That would be great! Please post some pics too.


I had some luck with the drive over method today. I thought I'd give it one more shot driving closer to the rim, as close as I dared (actually scuffed up one rim on the driving car, :pullinghairout:) and it worked!

The tools:
One vehicle that runs and drives
One sledge hammer, 3 lb or so.
One crowbar
One big ol' flathead screwdriver. Or something really tough to pry with.

First drive over the tire like this and PARK THERE. Don't move around, just park.



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Then get out and put the crowbar on the tire where the bead locks in.



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Hammer the crowbar down with the hammer. If you're lucky, break the bead. (See side two below). If it breaks the bead the tire will be easy to push down from the rim on the side you're working on when you step on it. Just step on it all the way around and it'll peel off like an orange peel.

Then back off of it again and flip the wheel over. Repeat.



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This one wasn't so lucky. If you drive on it and hammer the crap out of it and it isn't letting go, back off of it again and flip the tire around 180 degrees and drive back on the other side. That worked every time for me. If it doesn't work for you turn the tire by 1/4ths (12 oclock, 3 oclock, 6 oclock and 9 oclock) until it does break free.



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Finally work your crowbar back in under the lip and pry the crap out of it till it pops up and over. You might need to adjust the other side of the tire, that you're not prying on, to get more slack on the side you are prying on.



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Once it's pried up work your screwdriver around. I only had to do about 3 pries with the screwdriver on this side before I could peel the tire off by hand, and I'm a weenie armed pecker necked guy.



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It took 30 minutes for the first one, 15 for the second, and 20 for the last two. I'd book 2 hours to be safe before trying this at home. :)




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UP next, more sandblasting and mounting my own tires! Learning is awesome, isn't it?

BarryGMC September 26th, 2014 02:03 AM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
OK pep. You are killing me. I have a tire machine an old coats 10-10
And a bubble balancer. I still pay the 40 to mount and balance 4 tires. I will give you a thumbs for tenacity.

GMCDAC September 27th, 2014 01:53 AM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
Yeah, I used to do racecar tires like this a lot when I was a much younger, and even now on my own trucks I do my tire work on an old Coats we have at work. Gotta save money somewhere so my stuff gets cheaped out on. Part of the reason why I drive old GMC's too is they are cheaper than a car or truck payment so the wife can drive something fairly new. Since my trucks are beaters, I gotta try to keep a couple running all the time in case one breaks down----LOL!

I too give you a thumbs up as the "More time than money" thing is known to happen. Just a good thing you are a lot younger, for this job, weenie arms and all!

Oh yeah, around here the tire mounting price is 10 to 15 bucks each PLUS another 60 bucks to balance all 4. Mounting is free if you bought tires but they still stick it to you for the balance. $2.50 each for valve stems too. And another thought, they charge $2.50 each to dispose of the dismounted tires which is much cheaper than if you were to take them to the dump yourself. The dump charges 6 to 10 bucks each to throw away tires, depending on size and that is just car and light truck tires. Higher yet for bigger tires!

Sorry about the rant about how darn much this stuff costs!

DAC

FetchMeAPepsi October 3rd, 2014 07:59 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryGMC (Post 54842)
OK pep. You are killing me. I have a tire machine an old coats 10-10
And a bubble balancer. I still pay the 40 to mount and balance 4 tires. I will give you a thumbs for tenacity.

Heh! I probably shoulda paid, but I got more time than sense :lolsmack2:


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Originally Posted by GMCDAC (Post 54851)
Yeah, I used to do racecar tires like this a lot when I was a much younger, and even now on my own trucks I do my tire work on an old Coats we have at work. Gotta save money somewhere so my stuff gets cheaped out on. Part of the reason why I drive old GMC's too is they are cheaper than a car or truck payment so the wife can drive something fairly new. Since my trucks are beaters, I gotta try to keep a couple running all the time in case one breaks down----LOL!

I too give you a thumbs up as the "More time than money" thing is known to happen. Just a good thing you are a lot younger, for this job, weenie arms and all!

Oh yeah, around here the tire mounting price is 10 to 15 bucks each PLUS another 60 bucks to balance all 4. Mounting is free if you bought tires but they still stick it to you for the balance. $2.50 each for valve stems too. And another thought, they charge $2.50 each to dispose of the dismounted tires which is much cheaper than if you were to take them to the dump yourself. The dump charges 6 to 10 bucks each to throw away tires, depending on size and that is just car and light truck tires. Higher yet for bigger tires!

Sorry about the rant about how darn much this stuff costs!

DAC

That's oK! Im glad I can do it at home or it wouldn't get done for a long time. I gotta schedule every outing since we have all the kids and loading up 5 tires in the kid-mobile requires babysitters and several blankets. :bigyikes:

FetchMeAPepsi October 3rd, 2014 08:17 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
I decided to build a tent this time so I could save some of my blast media.

Remember this from the "hey, can you kill yourself removing a truck bed?" post earlier?



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I dragged it over where I could reach it with the air compressor and had The Boy hold it up for me. Powder Puff was doing something else, chasing a butterfly I think. I grabbed an old rotten deck plank and tied it to the top with my newfound JERK (grk) screws. I should be getting some kinda kickback from them for this lol.



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About that time Powder Puff ambled over to see what we were making so I let her hold the next one for the other leg of our 3 walled frame.



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When it was done it looked like this:



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I found these tarps on sale at Academy Sports about two weeks ago. PUttin em to use now.



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I put one under my contraption to act as a floor and catch all my media



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Threw one over the top



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And one crossways over the sides. That made one full wall on one side and one half wall on the other, and one side had no wall at all to easily get my fat butt in and out with the hose and the wheels.



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When it was done I turned around for I KID YOU NOT two seconds and it was infested with children. I need to spray.



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FetchMeAPepsi October 3rd, 2014 08:33 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
The materials I needed:



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I picked up the hood from Ebay. It fogs up if it gets too hot but it does keep the dirt out of my lungs. Black Beauty is supposed to be safe for minor dust to breathe but I still get nervous about it.

Oh :threadjacked: heres a side by side of the old and new tires. Old tires are wider ones on the top and right. The new ones are quite a bit thinner. Maybe I can turn Cecilia in a parking lot now.



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The infestation is rampant.



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This is my go-to primer. It's pretty cheap for a six pack on amazon. About 25.00.



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FetchMeAPepsi October 3rd, 2014 09:04 PM

Re: 1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)
 
I got to blasting then and dust went everywhere.



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I blasted the entire outsides. I didn't think I should do the inside but I did a little semi blasting there to get the bigger, deeper scale off anyway. I hope it still holds air OK. It just has surface rust now.



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When I finished blasting I pulled the tarps back. I did blow a hole through the floor in two places and sent who knows how much media through them before I noticed. I also blew a lot out of a hole on the side where I didn't have them overlapped right.



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Some of those piles were 5 inches thick. Mission accomplished.



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Now to prime them and paint them, then get the tires back on so I can go get more fence boards before ..... :winter:


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