View Single Post
Old December 17th, 2018, 02:07 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Madison, WI
Truck: I don't own one - YET!
Posts: 115
Rep Power: 78
POWERSTROKE is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Interesting Article

John Deere built two tractors with 4 cylinder open deck engine design, and similar to GM's philosophy, made gas and diesel engines starting around 1960. Even the most diehard Deere fanatic acknowledges them as a terrible design. Deere went a step further, the cylinders were part of the top deck casting, and the cylinders fit into counter bores in the base of the block. Failure mode was cylinders cracking off the top deck and oil and water mixing, OR top deck cracking between cylinders, and oil and water mixing.

Deere no longer makes replacement castings for those engines.

Not sure which Toroflow engine was in the Chevy C70 Dad drove, 478 V-6, or might have been 637 V-8. I was ten years old. I don't remember it sounding like the gas V-6's from a few years before. Anyone that would have known has passed away. No lower end failures, but it didn't get many miles either, the two Cummins powered Emeryvilles did most of the runs.
The 8.2L Fuel Pincher I drove was actually a nice truck to drive, got good milage, just could not keep it running right for long. On the flip side the IH FleetStar that replaced it with 478 cid gas V8 just ran and ran and ran. As long as you kept gassing it up. Got around 3 mpg vs 7 for the 8.2L. Back then diesel was cheaper than gas so 8.2L about 1/3rd the cost per mile to run.

Saw an article written by some diesel pickup magazine where readers voted on best & worst diesel engines. I was not shocked the 5.9 & 6.7 Cummins won, but was shocked the 6.0L IH V-8 Powerstroke Once Deleted, beat out the 7.3L PSD and the 6.9L & 7.3L IDI V-8's. SON had a '14 Ram 2500 CTD, got repetitive contaminated DEF faults, bought his DEF at local Fleet/Farm store, guess ALL DEF is made in Ida Grove, Iowa. After 4th fault truck dealer was getting difficult to deal with, so he had it deleted. No more DEF, tuner with 500 hp setting, no more contaminated DEF or any other faults for 1-1/2 yrs. He's now driving my '96 F-250 with stock 7.3L PSD as his daily driver, goal is to take it from my 300,000 miles to 400,000 miles and watch the odometer roll from 399,999.9 back to 300,000.0.
Reply With Quote