Toro Flow swaps?

[Hantke]

do Toro flow diesels directly bolt onto the stock tranny of a 63 gmc 1000? I've been contemplating a lot of things before my first purchase, and while i originally planned a cumins swap, I think a toro flow would be more appropriate for a gmc pickup

[6066gmcguy]

No its not a bolt in swap, but is you find one from a 4000 series truck with a smaller trans like the SM420 it should not be too hard.

The one I have came from a 1964 4000 series with a SM420, I got every thing except the clutch assembly.

I have been thinking it would work good in a my one ton or my Rescue Squad.

[quest]

Originally Posted by 6066gmcguy

No its not a bolt in swap, but is you find one from a 4000 series truck with a smaller trans like the SM420 it should not be too hard.

The one I have came from a 1964 4000 series with a SM420, I got every thing except the clutch assembly.

I have been thinking it would work good in a my one ton or my Rescue Squad.

When I first read about the toroflo I was really interested in finding one as the turbo models on YT were very cool engines, however the good ones are few and information I found about there being simply no parts available killed my interest. I like the engine but even as a show piece, not a daily driver, it's still hard to justify putting one in a truck when there is no parts available and so many other cool options available.

I kinda like the idea of a Cummins 4BT now since I learned they can produce high HP and torque that is good enough for even the full size trucks. I like 6.2 and 6.9 and they have been put in heavy pickups so i think almost any other option would give good power and economy.

If you have been thinking about cummins vs. toroflow you must plan on driving this rig so in that case I would do the cummins for sure.

BTW, I have have fantasy of having a modified 2 or 3T frame converted to a pickup truck with 853 jimmy and jake brakes, maybe even a twin stick transmission, . Here is a picture of a guys 65 Chev 4000 that he put an 8' pickup box on the back, very cool looking truck would be nice with front diff and a diesel! (hope the picture shows up if not google 65 chevy 4000 and click on the link with images and it should be there.)

[Hantke]

Thanks, I would hate to ruin the integrity of the truck though. My debate was between a 4bt or a NA 6B, which was used in the early 2,000's dodge pickups and when built correctly get good mileage and have great torque. On the other hand, a 305E would be significantly cheaper and be just fine for the next couple years. It's a hard call, but I was thinking about a daily driver

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[AZKen]

I am not an expert but have been reading some info I have. List of parts needed. Bell housing . Clutch pressure plate and throw out bearing. Motor stands and v6 motor mounts. Throttle arm. V6 starter. V6 engine harness. GMC v6 radiator. The 230-250 radiator is a bit small for a 305 and way to small for a 351. If you are using the original alternator and regulator you will need to move the regulator to the passenger fender well. If you get a big truck motor you will also need the front timing gear cover off a light truck engine.