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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
Green tint or clear, which in your opinion is closer to factory? Pilkington can make either. Also, my truck frame is dated 9-23-59,and the original owner took delivery in Pontiac in fall 1959. He is still alive,91,and a WWII vet and friend of mine. My side glass was all replaced and I do not have the old glass. Lets set an arbitrary date of September 23 ,1959 for the glass, to match the frame date code. What would be appropriate in that instance? I cant thank you enough for all your help in this matter, Greg Mead
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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
I would go with YT. This is august 59. I would go with the green. While I think its a bit off. Most people can't tell. I can get 5 or 6 60-61 trucks together and most can't see the difference. Its subtle.
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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
my experience with first year rigs is the parts are a bit older than the assembly dates. Sub contractors produced more to meet demand and production was a bit slower due to the new changes.
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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
The 2nd pic shows the correct green tinted "E-Z-Eye" logo - E Z Eye was used in the 50s cars and trucks and was later replaced around 1961-62 with "Soft Ray" which was used into the 70's. Seems like E Z Eye glass was laminated where Soft Ray was whatever you call the opposite of laminated - single pane in other words. In any case, the green tint did fade and depending on what part of the country the truck sat exposed in, some are worse than others - here in the South, we get a lot of hot hot sunshine, and when you walk upto a soft Ray or E Z Eye glass that's been here 50+ years, its nearly clear. Barrys 2nd pic looks pretty badly faded. The glass started out dramatically greener than clear glass and was offered on trucks as an option - had nothing to do with what style of truck you got, because it was a stand alone option, but seems like tinted windshields were part of the Custom Cab option - so if you got the full foam seat, passenger visor and armrest, and chrome around the windshield, then the windshield itself would be green tinted. My 66 Chevrolet is a custom cab and oddly it has factory tinted glass all the way around - doors, vents and big rear glass. There is a company in Washington state that will etch your E-Z-Eye logos and date codes on new glass you send or buy from them, but now I cant remember who that company is - been a long time since I was considering being that picky about my glass. Now I am OK without the logos but like you I want the right green glass - so today's reproductions are about right, BUT you have to really search to find a company selling green glass windshields with NO dark band at the top - this is incorrect for 50's and 60's trucks - only green glass top to bottom with no added sun shade band. Most people want the sun shaded band on their glass for the obvious benefit, but its not correct and makes the truck look very different to me. Vintage Glass in Atlanta will special order windshields for these 60s trucks with only green tint / no band. So good luck with your replacement - thats a **** good looking truck.
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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
The E-Z-eye glass pictured is a march of 65 glass according to my date books. All of the windshields are laminated. E-z - eye is laminated plate glass with green tint. Soft-ray is laminated float glass with tint.
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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
One more thought. E-z-glass only was a Libby, owens,ford . Product. Only lof glass has it. Soft ray was a gm trademark. And was used by lof and ppg glass on gm products.
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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
Great Info guys. I have decided to go with the Green Tinted Pilkington Glass Co. Windshield. Can you each tell me line by line, what markings I need them to apply. I have decided to date the windshield from September,1959. Better yet a drawing of what it should look like, or a picture of an original that might just need a few changes to be correct. I have to supply the artwork for Pilkington to apply, so I need to get consensus from you guys on what exactly I need for this particular application. Almost forgot, I need to know exactly where to have it applied. Were they all placed exactly the same, or were they randomly done? Thanks again for all the help. Greg Mead
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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
AY date is sept. TY is august. 1959. I will get a better pic of the e-z- glass. And its location and size. Just remember its backwards from the outside. Just remember that judging allows for about 6 months prior to assembly on dated parts. Early first year of production and January- February rigs have older parts . Due to production adjustments and holiday shutdowns.
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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
Here is the info on my VIN Plate:
1002 P N2493A (w/ Frame dated 9-26-59) As I understand, and correct me if I am wrong, each plant started production with number 1001, so that plants first truck would have a VIN of 1002 P N1001. By that logic, my truck is the 1492nd truck built at that plant. I guess there are VINs with the same number, with only the plant letter to differentiate them. I wonder if the different plants started production in unison, or if Pontiac, being the home team, may have started first. As for the optional glass tint versus clear, I can not find a part number in the 1960 Master Parts Book, or the 1960 GMC Accessories booklet or tri-fold flyer. Seems like I thought there was an upgrade for windshields with the Custom Package, but I have not found it in print ,yet. If there was an upgrade available in 1960,would it have been Greenish for Deluxe and Shade Banded for Custom, or Clear for Deluxe and Green tint No Band for Custom. Where can I find print that eludes to the windshield upgrade for 1960 GMC? My windshield has front bottom center, read from front of truck outside, GUARDIAN SHADED LAMINATED AS-1 64 I assume it was made in 1964. I would say it is Green tint with Blue Band. It is butt ugly to me ,and then we cracked it, strike two, its out. Lets get it back to factory specs for a Custom 1002 . Thanks for all the help, Greg Mead |
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Re: Correct Windshield Data for 1960 1002
I have never seen or heard of anyone having a truck of any make with E-Z Eye glass in it after about 1960, so not sure why I only see Soft Ray after about this time - this is very peculiar if yours is on a 1965 truck....
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