1962 GMC 305V6 4WD Slow DD Build - Cecilia (Pic Heavy)

[FetchMeAPepsi]

Originally Posted by GMCDAC

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Glad to see your victory over this stubborn hub! That chunk of rubber you pulled out earlier may have been the seal that was gone out of that seal you pulled in the "Pop" pic. I'm sure a rubber lip should have been in there. Numbers might be stamped in that metal ring too.

Thanks for the updates.

DAC

Thanks for reading Dac. I think you're right. I'll order a replacement ring this week and we'll see what a new one looks like

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Originally Posted by BarryGMC

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Good job. First its not a gasket its a seal. Next you need to remove the spindle from the knuckle. That's held on by the 6 bolts. Then we can walk you through the next step. Before you do the rest get a proper parts washer. It only needs to be an old canning kettle or metal wash pail and a parts cleaner brush and a gallon of diesel.

So there's no rubber ring that goes into it? I might need to bend it back into round. I buggered it up a little on the edges

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I got me a big purple tub to put my stuff in. I'm going to buy 5 gallons of diesel this week and try my hand at not setting myself on fire. The kiddos will be home full time in a couple of weeks too so I'll have more time to PLAY WITH CECILIA! This will be great because the Powder Puff has been itchin to help but she just doesn't have the time anymore.



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I sure love this truck, and all the great things that come with it

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[FetchMeAPepsi]

So Barry, did you mean THESE 9/16 sized six bolts? Yes Sir!



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With those six bolts out the brake assembly just fell away!



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I set it on top of the axle. Then I was left with this elephant looking thing



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Here's a closer view. Nothing seemed worn or scratched up.



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Next I took the four bolts out on top. Also 9/16 sized.



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This thing pulled straight out. It doesn't seem to have a purpose

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But there were THREE metal gaskets under it. Weird



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Then I took the four bolts out of the bottom one. It had no metal gaskets on it at all.



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Also interesting, two of the bottom one's bolts were longer than the top ones. Here they are side by side.



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The long bolts went on the rear outside corner and the front inside corner. Here's my finger showing you where they go.



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Then the bottom "purposeless thing" came loose with a little wiggling.



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Then I moved to the back of the knuckle (big round thing holding the elephant trunk). I took about half the bolts out of it. They're 1/2 inch bolts, not 9/16 like the front.



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I had the wheel turned when I took it loose so I had to use a wrench for some of them

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As I took the last bolt out this thin metal piece fell off and smacked the ground. Beware of falling brackets!



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[FetchMeAPepsi]

In the front of the wheel - I mean the knuckle, it hooks to the steering bar thing. It has a cotter pin in it. Mine broke when I tried to take it out. Too much rusting I guess.



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The nut is 3/4 inch. I spun it down almost off, but left it on for whacking.



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Now I whacked it with a hammer to pop it loose. Leaving the nut on it keeps the hammer from messing up the threads.



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After that I took it off the rest of the way.



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The steering bar just lifts up out of the way.



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Then I grabbed the little ear that the steering bar hooked to and wiggled it back and forth. this broke the outside of the knuckle loose so I could pull it off of the elephant trunk thing.



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Sitting in the bottom of this was a little cup bearing.



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[FetchMeAPepsi]

This freed up the elephant trunk entirely so I pulled it out. It kept going, and going...



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And going! This thing must have been hooked up to Arkansas somewhere!



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It didn't seem to have any abrasions or anything weird with it either, besides a boatload of grease! I put it in my inherited purple wash bucket. It just barely fit. I'll get a better look at it after I clean all the grease off.

That left me with this paper gasket and a couple of metal brackets on the back of the knuckle.



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The back of the paper gasket had the other half of that metal bracket on it, but stuck to it real good. The one that fell must have been knocked loose by the impact wrench.



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Then I carefully worked the paper gasket off the knuckle. It didn't want to fit without tearing. I'll have to be careful with the replacement. It's a tight fit.



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Then I spotted this little cup bearing in the top hole (right under where it's shown in the pic). It goes under the "purposeless thing".



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Finally there's a thicker metal piece that goes around the axle. It has a split in it so you can bend one side up, one side down, just enough to slip it around the axle.



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Then I flipped the brake assembly over and inside it there was a brass sleeve.



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And this is what it looks like now. Piece of cake! Well, really it looks like this with a trash bag over it because we're having tornadoes over for dinner tonight according to the weather man. Can't have Cecilia getting water-on-the-knee at her tender young age of 52



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I am disappointed that aside from a few rubber bits I haven't really found anything that might make a good squeaky noise. But I'm going to replace all the bearings and seals anyway.

The other side should be a snap after this!

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[BarryGMC]

Cool. When you start cleaning pop the spindle off the backing plate and clean it. When I get to an I pad I will give you my thoughts. AND give you the proper terms. Elephant thing. I almost choked on my dessert . Barry

[GMCDAC]

Originally Posted by FetchMeAPepsi

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Thanks for reading Dac. I think you're right. I'll order a replacement ring this week and we'll see what a new one looks like

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So there's no rubber ring that goes into it? I might need to bend it back into round. I buggered it up a little on the edges

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Hey Fetch, I dig your detailed progress pics if I haven't said that a bunch of times already!

Yeah there should be a rubber lip in that "ring". It is the wheel bearing grease seal. The rubber has gotten pulled out of it somehow and I still suspect that the piece of rubber you pulled out may be part of it.

Looking forward to updates.

DAC

[FetchMeAPepsi]

Originally Posted by BarryGMC

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Cool. When you start cleaning pop the spindle off the backing plate and clean it. When I get to an I pad I will give you my thoughts. AND give you the proper terms. Elephant thing. I almost choked on my dessert . Barry

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I had to call it something and it just flopped around like an elephant trunk so...I dubbed it the elephant thing! I got the bearings cleaned up to take to a bunch of parts stores today. The rest will probably be tomorrow.

Originally Posted by GMCDAC

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Hey Fetch, I dig your detailed progress pics if I haven't said that a bunch of times already!

Yeah there should be a rubber lip in that "ring". It is the wheel bearing grease seal. The rubber has gotten pulled out of it somehow and I still suspect that the piece of rubber you pulled out may be part of it.

Looking forward to updates.

DAC

I think you're right Dac! It was kinda brittly-rubbery so the shoe fits.

I spent today doing other-car work and looking for Cecilia's parts. Good news is my other cars are loaded for bear. First pic shows The Boy, my tireless helper of the day, after his first oil change in the storm shelter/Oil pit. The Powder Puff stayed inside and painted walls with The Blonde.

Anyway...The bad news is NOBODY carries the bushing or the two little O rings I need. Nobody! I tried:

NAPA
Carquest
Oreilleys
Autozone

The guy at Oreilleys tried for almost an hour to find a part that would fit and still came up empty. He suggested trying online. Bummer.


Here's some part numbers for the more common things. The bearings are very easy to find because they used them for everything back in the 60's.

Grease Seal - National Brand - part number 442380
Inner Bearing by Grease Seal- Timkin Brand - part number LM 603049
Outer Bearing - Timkin Brand - part number LM 501349
Knuckle Bearings - Timkin Brand - part number 11520 (sleeve insert) and 11590 (bearing itself)
Brass Spindle\Axle Bushing - GM Part No. 2402596

Those tiny bearings in the top and bottom are called Knuckle Bearings. I don't have a part number on them yet, but when I do I'll post it.

I'll spend a large portion of the night tonight trying to find the bushing and O rings. Hopefully I can find them and get them installed soon because there's a MINI MEET coming up and the Powder Puff and I really plan to get down there for some burgers and hot dogs (and free advise!).



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Oh, and the second pic is of the bearings, nuts, and grease seal in the order they all came out for reference.

[BarryGMC]

You can get any o ring at a hydraulic supply outfit and those bushing at a bearing supply. Store.

[BarryGMC]

BDI bearing is where I find most of my bearings and seals. Same with o rings. However I get the better viton o rings at a hydraulic supply and rebuilder shop. Here it is american hydraulic and chrome. The auto supply shops are more expensive and often staffed by dingbats. Also check the corn binder site for the bushing part # and knuckle bearing part #. They use the same dana front end except for wheel bolt pattern . I guess I am spoiled. I. Have 3 bearing supply shops within a half mile of each other. Two are on the same block. And one guy has most of the dana 4x4 stuff put to memory.